Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

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  • Stevo
    Senior Player
    • May 2008
    • 1003

    Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

    I see on Twitter there are a few keen on us taking Ethan Phillips. Would he be worth it?

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

      Originally posted by Stevo
      I see on Twitter there are a few keen on us taking Ethan Phillips. Would he be worth it?
      I’d be happy for one.
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43892

        Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        I’d be happy for one.
        Would it be a need to get a KPD BT?
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Would it be a need to get a KPD BT?
          Longer term, yep. I advocated picking him up in the SSP.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43892

            Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Longer term, yep. I advocated picking him up in the SSP.
            I guess that there is always a need for decent KPD but we seem to have a good blend at the moment for the shorter and longer term balance.
            Assuming Keath is gone at the end of the season we still have a longer term view with Darcy (likely forced back if we land Croft) Gardner, Busslinger and O'Donnell. TOB, Jones and Bruce to support in the shorter term.
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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I guess that there is always a need for decent KPD but we seem to have a good blend at the moment for the shorter and longer term balance.
              Assuming Keath is gone at the end of the season we still have a longer term view with Darcy (likely forced back if we land Croft) Gardner, Busslinger and O'Donnell. TOB, Jones and Bruce to support in the shorter term.
              I see us too old back in defence. And we need a blend of ages over just kids for 2-3 years time when Jones, Duryea, Keath, Bruce, TOB & Crozier are all gone:

              Forward: Naughton (I’d see him go back), Croft, Darcy (2nd ruck for Lobb), Marra

              Backs: Gardner, Buss, JOD are it right now - so a much mature Phillips with a few seasons in the system could be a handy point of difference with age, overall experience and body size.

              I don’t Phillips changes anything for this year, while he may, I think he could be a handy ‘free hit’ looking at the profiles. Now, if we have trades lined up for KPDs or intercepting defenders with experience then he could be surplus to need. But right now, looking to the horizon of our aging defenders, I have no issue with grabbing Phillips.
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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14462

                Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Forward: Naughton (I’d see him go back)
                Our numbers are growing GG.
                The curse is dead.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 18722

                  Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                  Originally posted by chef
                  Our numbers are growing GG.
                  All aboard!
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • Dogs 24/7
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1162

                    Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                    I keep hearing its Poulter and that doesnt inspire me much. Looks okay but with limited upside.

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 43892

                      Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                      Someone on Twitter suggested Mutaz El Nour might be on our radar.
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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11727

                        Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Someone on Twitter suggested Mutaz El Nour might be on our radar.
                        192cm defender who apparently used to be in our NGA program
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65591

                          Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          I see us too old back in defence.
                          Agree, need to think about the future. Jones, Keath, Bruce all over 30.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43892

                            Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            192cm defender who apparently used to be in our NGA program
                            A quick write up on him

                            Mutaz El Nour
                            Richmond (VFL)

                            H: 192cm, W: 83kg, DOB: 14/8/2001
                            Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

                            A mid-sized hybrid defender, El Nour was considered as a mid-season draft prospect when he was playing for the Northern Bullants last year but was ultimately overlooked. He moved to fellow VFL side Richmond this season, where he has again been solid. El Nour’s one-on-one contest work has been impressive, along with some of his intercepting. He also brings dare, athleticism and good foot skills. Across his first five VFL games this year, El Nour averaged 11.2 disposals, 3 marks and 4.4 spoils.
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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 43892

                              Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                              Caleb Poulter and Marty Hore The 6 month deals make them more attractive to select.

                              Caleb Poulter
                              Footscray (VFL)

                              H: 194cm, W: 84kg, DOB: 12/10/2002
                              Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

                              Delisted by Collingwood at the end of last season, Poulter has impressed on a wing for Footscray in the VFL this year. He played 12 games across two seasons for the Magpies, including 11 games in 2021, after being selected at pick 30 in the 2020 national draft. Across seven VFL games this season, Poulter has averaged 18.1 disposals, 6.3 marks and 0.7 goals.


                              Marty Hore
                              Williamstown (VFL)

                              H: 190cm, W: 84kg, DOB: 5/3/1996
                              Nominated Contract Term: 6 months

                              The former Melbourne defender has been rock solid for Williamstown in the VFL this season, after making the switch from North Melbourne’s VFL side at the end of last season. Hore played 14 AFL games across three seasons with the Demons before being delisted at the end of the 2021 season. Hore has been the leading intercept player in the VFL this year, averaging 5.6 intercept marks and 10.4 intercept possessions.
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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 43892

                                Re: Mid Season Draft 2023 Discussion

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Agree, need to think about the future. Jones, Keath, Bruce all over 30.
                                That's by design though and probably why we invested in Busslinger this year.
                                Assuming that Keath goes at the end of the that leaves Jones, Bruce and TOB as experienced defenders and Gardner, Darcy, Busslinger and O'Donnell to start building around. I'm not 100% sure if Darcy will be a defender but it's an option.
                                On top of that we are likely to add a tall defender in this draft and we could potentially use Raak or Khamis who seem to be more natural defenders.
                                Come the end of 2024 and heading into 2025 then it's probably Jones with limitations supporting Gardner, Darcy, Busslinger and O'Donnell.

                                I think the balance is reasonable.
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