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  • mighty_west
    Coaching Staff
    • Feb 2008
    • 3439

    #16
    Re: Is it time to make a big move?

    We need to play big and really target one of the big 3 at GWS, with a multimillion $$$ 8 year deal, I believe the club needs to grab an A grade power forward to grow with our exciting young midfield group, Tomlinson would be another to consider.

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    • KT31
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jul 2008
      • 5454

      #17
      Re: Is it time to make a big move?

      IMO we are a year off the big play , but that is not to say if we get the opportunity we should not go for it but we still have to fill a few gaps before we sell the farm.
      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        #18
        Re: Is it time to make a big move?

        Originally posted by mighty_west
        We need to play big and really target one of the big 3 at GWS, with a multimillion $$$ 8 year deal, I believe the club needs to grab an A grade power forward to grow with our exciting young midfield group, Tomlinson would be another to consider.
        I think the same. Need to throw big money to get someone out.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44640

          #19
          Re: Is it time to make a big move?

          Originally posted by mighty_west
          We need to play big and really target one of the big 3 at GWS, with a multimillion $$$ 8 year deal, I believe the club needs to grab an A grade power forward to grow with our exciting young midfield group, Tomlinson would be another to consider.
          I like the spirit of what you are saying but the issue of unlocking one of the three GWS isn't about money it's about getting the club to agree to it which won't be easy. I just can't see our pick 5, 6 or 7 getting a player from GWS (Patton for example) that they have already put a couple of years of development into and paid a number one pick for. They really value the player or they wouldn't have selected him.

          It might get them to part with Jaksch but not Cameron, Boyd or Patton. We would need to throw in a lot more.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27655

            #20
            Re: Is it time to make a big move?

            I think it's time to make the big move but I don't think that Reid is what we need. To me he doesn't scream out "I'm can be the no 1 man and I am the right fit!" Basically he's not worth #4 and if we are going to risk our first pick we want a guaranteed return.

            I know you are saying that we'd get something back our way but if we are going to put #4 on the table I'd rather not punt on a bloke who may the answer, I'd want a player who is really going to get the place hopping.

            I say if we are going to go all out, let's really go all out and get Patton or Cameron. I know it would have to be a Godfather offer to GWS but let's do it. Pick 4 plus one of our young mids for Patton or Cameron and a suitable player or pick back from them.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18030

              #21
              Re: Is it time to make a big move?

              Originally posted by Twodogs
              I think it's time to make the big move but I don't think that Reid is what we need. To me he doesn't scream out "I'm can be the no 1 man and I am the right fit!" Basically he's not worth #4 and if we are going to risk our first pick we want a guaranteed return.

              I know you are saying that we'd get something back our way but if we are going to put #4 on the table I'd rather not punt on a bloke who may the answer, I'd want a player who is really going to get the place hopping.

              I say if we are going to go all out, let's really go all out and get Patton or Cameron. I know it would have to be a Godfather offer to GWS but let's do it. Pick 4 plus one of our young mids for Patton or Cameron and a suitable player or pick back from them.
              So which one of Macrae or Bonti do you want to give up?
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • mighty_west
                Coaching Staff
                • Feb 2008
                • 3439

                #22
                Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I like the spirit of what you are saying but the issue of unlocking one of the three GWS isn't about money it's about getting the club to agree to it which won't be easy. I just can't see our pick 5, 6 or 7 getting a player from GWS (Patton for example) that they have already put a couple of years of development into and paid a number one pick for. They really value the player or they wouldn't have selected him.

                It might get them to part with Jaksch but not Cameron, Boyd or Patton. We would need to throw in a lot more.
                Its time for this club to think Premierships and do what it can to build a team that one day will dominate, not just go in with half a chance.

                At first I'd throw up our first pick plus either a JJ or Dahl (won't be popular amongst the younger generation), but supporters will find other players to fall in love with, they would also fall in love with winning Premierships which is exactly what this deal is trying to achieve.

                Time for our club to show some courage.

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                • mighty_west
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3439

                  #23
                  Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  I like the spirit of what you are saying but the issue of unlocking one of the three GWS isn't about money it's about getting the club to agree to it which won't be easy. I just can't see our pick 5, 6 or 7 getting a player from GWS (Patton for example) that they have already put a couple of years of development into and paid a number one pick for. They really value the player or they wouldn't have selected him.

                  It might get them to part with Jaksch but not Cameron, Boyd or Patton. We would need to throw in a lot more.
                  Do you honestly believe Sam Reid is the big power forward you build teams around? I don't mind Reid as a player, however like Jones, like Grant, like Roughead when forward his kicking for goal is less than satisfactory imo.

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                  • mighty_west
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 3439

                    #24
                    Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                    For Jaksch, offer Talia up to Adelaide to play with his brother, they will be desperate for key defenders, Crows offer GWS something, we get Jaksch as a perfect replacement for Talia but with better skills.

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                    • comrade
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 18030

                      #25
                      Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                      Sam Reid isn't the answer, in my opinion, and pulling the trigger NOW might mean we miss out on the perfect opportunity to set us up for a tilt in 2016/17/18.

                      I think next year's trade period is what we should be targeting.

                      I might be in the minority, but I don't think we'll be pushing for a finals berth next year and will be around the same-ish mark as 2014. Maybe a position or 2 higher. So we'll still have a pick between 5-9.

                      Patton is out of contract at the end of the year. GWS are going to suck again next season. Some of his mates will be leaving during this year's trade period and more will leave next year, so the peer pressure thing isn't such a big issue. Dom Tyson has already come out in the media saying GWS players should look elsewhere.

                      Throw our first pick at GWS (likely 5-9), offer a large-long term contract to Patton and just get it done.
                      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                      • wimberga
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 851

                        #26
                        Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        Sam Reid isn't the answer, in my opinion, and pulling the trigger NOW might mean we miss out on the perfect opportunity to set us up for a tilt in 2016/17/18.

                        I think next year's trade period is what we should be targeting.

                        I might be in the minority, but I don't think we'll be pushing for a finals berth next year and will be around the same-ish mark as 2014. Maybe a position or 2 higher. So we'll still have a pick between 5-9.

                        Patton is out of contract at the end of the year. GWS are going to suck again next season. Some of his mates will be leaving during this year's trade period and more will leave next year, so the peer pressure thing isn't such a big issue. Dom Tyson has already come out in the media saying GWS players should look elsewhere.

                        Throw our first pick at GWS (likely 5-9), offer a large-long term contract to Patton and just get it done.
                        I could be wrong but believe Patton is contracted til 2016

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                        • chef
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 14619

                          #27
                          Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          You can trade for contracted players. Please re read the opening post, it's an offer of our first pick for Reid allowing for something to even things out.

                          All, please try to focus on the suggestion of trying to add a KPP like Reid to our list, lets not get distracted from that point.
                          Just trying to add to the discussion mate, sorry if I upset.

                          I'd be dangling our second round pick for Reid, but no more than that. Our first pick should be off limits.
                          The curse is dead.

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                          • wimberga
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 851

                            #28
                            Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            So which one of Macrae or Bonti do you want to give up?
                            Pick 5 + Dahl

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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14619

                              #29
                              Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                              Originally posted by wimberga
                              Pick 5 + Dahl
                              Which could be the next Bont/Macrae + Dahl, thats quite a bit to give up.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14619

                                #30
                                Re: Is it time to make a big move?

                                Outside of the GWS boys(who I don't think are realistic targets ATM) who are other players we could target?
                                The curse is dead.

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