Is it time to make a big move?

[LostDoggy]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

What about that bloke who kicked 8 sausage rolls against us a couple of weeks ago? Out of contract next season, grew up barracking for the Dogs and has a relationship with the coach... Essendon also need to get into the first and second round of the draft...

[1eyedog]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Always very hard to part with someone on your list that hasn't reached their potential. It will be the same for GWS which is why I didn't initially suggest targeting one of their boys. They will regard Cameron, Patton and Boyd in the same light we hold Bonts and Macrae and it's why I'm suggesting we would need to add more than pick 4,5 or 6 to get a deal done.

Do we make a pitch for Jack Riewoldt?

I wonder where they place McCarthy. He is great back up for anyone of the above. Wasn't he taken at pick 10 or 11? Good player, strong on both sides and a great contested mark.

[azabob]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

I wonder where they place McCarthy. He is great back up for anyone of the above. Wasn't he taken at pick 10 or 11? Good player, strong on both sides and a great contested mark.

They do seem to have quiet a few of those players that are there abouts heigh and potential wise. I had a nagging suspicion that McCathy was from SA or WA - turns out from WA. If he is up for grabs surely Freo would be in the box seat?

For what its worth he was pick 14.

Riewoldt has the skills and ability we are after, but is he the type of person we are after? Coupled with him being essentially head hunted would his ego grow even further?

[soupman]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

What about that bloke who kicked 8 sausage rolls against us a couple of weeks ago? Out of contract next season, grew up barracking for the Dogs and has a relationship with the coach... Essendon also need to get into the first and second round of the draft...

I would be reluctant to put too many eggs in the "Essendon players will escape suspension" basket.

[Sedat]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Not a huge Sam Reid fan but he does perform better when he is one of the 2 key forwards - that won't be happening at Sydney for the next 5 years. I'd offer Sydney a swap of first round picks for Reid and the promise of taking 100% of his salary off their hands. Let's put the COLA changes to our advantage and not offer the farm. If Sydney don't want to play ball then we can make a play for Membrey instead and let them deal with Reid's salary.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Subject to where our pick ends up, I'm not totally against doing this. My view is it's a pretty even draft, we may have someone in our sights but the couple of more certain top liners may be gone by our selection.

The other factor is, even if 2015 doesn't see us play finals it would be better to get someone in now so they can have a year to learn our structures and play with the other young guys to start building chemistry.

The difficulty is identifying the player and then, the price point (both in terms of picks/players and salary) we're prepared to offer and how we see our list and forward line looking over the next 1-3 years - this is the part I'm uncertain about - in theory I can get behind it.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Is Robbie Tarrant worth a punt?

Very injury prone, but also can play when fit and wouldn't break the bank.

Don't think we'd need to make a play for Robbie. Just pay the taxi fare.

[Mofra]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Maybe, maybe not. If we go tall, my best guess before combine is McCartin will be gone. From a few games this year I like what I've seen of Wright, he's 200+ and over 100 kegs. If he's there and it's him I think he's raw and some see him more ruckman first, forward second, but he's got the body to play first year in some capacity. I'm not suggesting he will rip it to shreds first up like Bonts, but I don't see him taking 4-5 years to impact.

Tom Hawkins was a man-child when drafted and it took him years to gain consistency.
Size isn't the only issue with KPFs - real strength takes years and then there is how quickly they can learn AFL running patterns & positioning.

If we take a tall in the first round, they wont be ready to take the no 1 KPF spot for years.

The issue is - who is available? Sam Reid is not a no 1 forward and prying a tall from GWS or the Suns (who have the better performed tall trio of the development clubs) is likely to be extremely difficult, considering how many clubs will try and find one.

[Mofra]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Charlie Dixon?

If available - yes. In a heartbeat.

[GVGjr]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

He wasn't 29 when they picked him up on the cheap from Richmond though...

I wasn't clear enough: which young forward should we target that could replicate the career Schultz has carved out at Port after Richmond lost patience.

I had a bit of a browse at some of the playing lists. All it did was give me a comparison to James Cook and Simon Minton-Connell

[GVGjr]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Charlie Dixon?

Local boy from QLD and plays when ever he is fit. Very unlikely to be able to try him away from an emerging team given he isn't struggling to hold his spot.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

First sign Bonts on a massive offer for many years. Make sure there is room to keep signing our other talent too.

Allow Higgins to go as to allow his, William's and Gia's salaries to be pooled. Cooney could be another salary saving if he wants to chase a premiership. Only if he wants out.

Then perhaps we throw out a stupid offer that the five teams beneath us can't match in the PSD, ala Tippett to Swans. Change the game right up.

8 years $650,000 (with pay reviews in the last 4 years if they are performing above average).

If we're going fishing we need good bait, the pay off for the risk of a long term signing is it saves the first round pick (pick 5) as the player we believe is worth that offer goes into the PSD. Even better.

Pick 5, 25, 26, father/sons if we want in Wallis/Foster/Kennedy/Cordy, and a big name signing in the PSD.

Time for the hunted to become the hunter...

[chef]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

First sign Bonts on a massive offer for many years. Make sure there is room to keep signing our other talent too.

Allow Higgins to go as to allow his, William's and Gia's salaries to be pooled. Cooney could be another salary saving if he wants to chase a premiership. Only if he wants out.

Then perhaps we throw out a stupid offer that the five teams beneath us can't match in the PSD, ala Tippett to Swans. Change the game right up.

8 years $650,000 (with pay reviews in the last 4 years if they are performing above average).

If we're going fishing we need good bait, the pay off for the risk of a long term signing is it saves the first round pick (pick 5) as the player we believe is worth that offer goes into the PSD. Even better.

Pick 5, 25, 26, father/sons if we want in Wallis/Foster/Kennedy/Cordy, and a big name signing in the PSD.

Time for the hunted to become the hunter...

Who's uncontracted and worth that sort of offer BT?

[boydogs]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Local boy from QLD and plays when ever he is fit. Very unlikely to be able to try him away from an emerging team given he isn't struggling to hold his spot.

Charlie is from Cairns, as is Jarrod Harbrow

[GVGjr]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Charlie is from Cairns, as is Jarrod Harbrow

I did know that I'm guessing he wouldn't want to leave QLD though.