2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

[GVGjr]

Re: 2023/24 - Aussie domestic cricket

A game of swings and roundabouts , must have been a bit of a sticky wicket . Batsman only got going if they hung about a while.
Elliott is a true all rounder by the looks of it.

It was a good track for both bowlers and batters. Was never going to be a high scoring game though.

[ledge]

Re: 2023/24 - Aussie domestic cricket

So the vics men and ladies off to great starts in the one dayers , I think they have both won their first two games.

[Axe Man]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

With a test batting spot potentially up for grabs after Green's injury the early shield games are going to be important for contenders. You would think an opening spot would be the one to fill with Smith moving back down the order. Apparently there is some chance Green may be able to play as a batter only which could see him move up to open.

Some notable innings from the first 2 days of round 1:
Bancroft 0 (golden)
Renshaw 6
Harris 143
Sam Konstas (19 year old NSW opener) 152
Henry Hunt 23
Head 30 (batting at number 4 so presumably not looking to move up to open as rumoured)

[Bornadog]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

With a test batting spot potentially up for grabs after Green's injury the early shield games are going to be important for contenders. You would think an opening spot would be the one to fill with Smith moving back down the order. Apparently there is some chance Green may be able to play as a batter only which could see him move up to open.

Some notable innings from the first 2 days of round 1:
Bancroft 0 (golden)
Renshaw 6
Harris 143
Sam Konstas (19 year old NSW opener) 152
Henry Hunt 23
Head 30 (batting at number 4 so presumably not looking to move up to open as rumoured)

Harris is in the box seat, but I have my doubts as a Test player.
I don't really want to see Head moved there, but we may have no choice.

[Bornadog]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

[Axe Man]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Konstas with 105 in the second innings to go with his 152 in the first. Maybe we should just put him straight in? Being from NSW I'm sure they already gave him a baggy green with his NSW cap.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Konstas with 105 in the second innings to go with his 152 in the first. Maybe we should just put him straight in? Being from NSW I'm sure they already gave him a baggy green with his NSW cap.

Terrific performance, getting a century is one thing but backing it up in the 2nd innings is sensational.

[Axe Man]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Terrific performance, getting a century is one thing but backing it up in the 2nd innings is sensational.

He's been the only century maker in the game so far too so it's not like they are batting on a road.

There was a good article about him in the Age today, seems destined for big things.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Konstas with 105 in the second innings to go with his 152 in the first. Maybe we should just put him straight in? Being from NSW I'm sure they already gave him a baggy green with his NSW cap.

I would be keen to pick him ahead of Harris.
If he produces more good scores in the early season games just give him the chance to go to the next level

[lemmon]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

He's been the only century maker in the game so far too so it's not like they are batting on a road.

There was a good article about him in the Age today, seems destined for big things.

I saw a lot of Sam bat at the Under-19 World Cup and I wasn't huge on him at the top of the order, to be honest, but you can't knock the runs he's scored.

He was pretty lucky not to go early a few times today - Carey shelled one he'd catch 99 times of out 100 and there was one that didn't go to hand through the slips, but he punished a very, very average South Australian attack once he got in.

I don't think we should be talking about him as a Test player yet. He's a very good player of spin, he's very strong through the off-side, and he's a lovely player to watch (a bit early Michael Clarke), but I also really don't like him as an opening bat (even though he's been doing it forever), because he loves to put his front dog down the track and drive away from his body.

You can mostly get away with that in Australia, but I think he'd be a huge knicker in the UK and NZ, and we should be looking for an all-conditions opening batsman.

He'll play Test cricket at some stage (hopefully at number 4), but this was a really poor South Australian attack, so I wouldn't have him in the conversation yet.

[lemmon]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

With a test batting spot potentially up for grabs after Green's injury the early shield games are going to be important for contenders. You would think an opening spot would be the one to fill with Smith moving back down the order. Apparently there is some chance Green may be able to play as a batter only which could see him move up to open.

Some notable innings from the first 2 days of round 1:
Bancroft 0 (golden)
Renshaw 6
Harris 143
Sam Konstas (19 year old NSW opener) 152
Henry Hunt 23
Head 30 (batting at number 4 so presumably not looking to move up to open as rumoured)

Great list - Beau Webster has to be in the conversation. He was the leading run scorer in the Shield last year with 938 runs and 30 wickets (only the second player ever to do 900+30, after ...Garry Sobers).

He's backed it up with a very good 113 today. He came to the wicket with the Vics on top at 4/143 and put Tassie into a dominant position.

It doesn't solve the opening problem, but he's a like-for-like replacement with Green, and I just don't think we can rely on Mitch Marsh for consistent overs.

If we're picking on form, Webster is the man.

[Axe Man]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Great list - Beau Webster has to be in the conversation. He was the leading run scorer in the Shield last year with 938 runs and 30 wickets (only the second player ever to do 900+30, after ...Garry Sobers).

He's backed it up with a very good 113 today. He came to the wicket with the Vics on top at 4/143 and put Tassie into a dominant position.

It doesn't solve the opening problem, but he's a like-for-like replacement with Green, and I just don't think we can rely on Mitch Marsh for consistent overs.

If we're picking on form, Webster is the man.

Good call, seems like he has picked up where he left off last season (he hadn't batted yet when I posted yesterday morning).

For years we couldn't find a decent all-rounder and now we have an embarrassment of riches with the likes of Green, Marsh, Hardie, Webster and Sutherland.

[Axe Man]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Green out of Border-Gavaskar Trophy after surgery decision

Star allrounder Cameron Green will have an operation to address a stress fracture of his spine, ruling him out of the summer

Australia allrounder Cameron Green has opted to go under the knife for surgery on his back after scans found a "unique" issue that was exacerbating his back injury.

The surgery will rule him out of the Border-Gavaskar Trophy Test series with India, with an expected recovery time of six months that would also puts him out of February's Test tour of Sri Lanka and the ICC Champions Trophy tournament, as well as casting doubt on his availability for the next Indian Premier League season.

Green reported lower back pain during September's tour of the UK, with subsequent scans revealing a stress fracture.

While stress fractures are not uncommon in fast bowlers, a statement from Cricket Australia said Green had a "unique defect in an adjacent area to the fracture that is believed to be contributing to the injury".

No further details on the nature of the "unique defect" were provided.

After a week of assessments and consultations, Green was left to weigh up the decision to have the same type of surgery that has resurrected and prolonged the career of numerous fast bowlers, including Aussie quicks James Pattinson, Jason Behrendorff and Ben Dwarshuis, as well as India's Jasprit Bumrah.

Green faced the choice of option for surgery or pushing on with rehab that would have potentially allowed him to return as a batter only during the five-Test series against India.

That choice has now been made, and Green will undergo an operation, performed by pioneering Christchurch surgeons Grahame Inglis and Rowan Schouten, which involves screws and titanium wire to bind vertebrae together.

With the surgery to stabilise the defect and reduce the risk of future recurrence, Green now faces an expected six-month recovery timeline.

The knock-on effects of Green's decision will be significant.

His absence from the No.4 spot could allow Steve Smith to move back to that position given selectors were already considering whether to keep him in the opening spot he took up last summer.

Cricket Australia will later today name an Australia A squad that is expected to feature the likes of Marcus Harris and Cameron Bancroft as well as teenage breakout Sheffield Shield star Sam Konstas, with selectors yet to decide if a new opener will be required.

Australia will also need to find the overs Green offered from somewhere. Mitch Marsh, the incumbent No.6, did not bowl in Western Australia's Sheffield Shield match against Queensland, and hardly bowled himself while captaining Australia's white-ball teams over the winter.

The stress fracture is Green's first major injury concern since graduating to international cricket in 2020. As a teenager, Green had suffered multiple back stress fractures, but his rise to an all-format player had been a success story for Cricket Australia's medical management.

A bigger consideration for him more recently had been the chronic kidney condition he has that forces him to monitor his diet closely and can lead to him suffering cramps.

In August, before his latest injury, he told cricket.com.au that a career as a specialist batter was something he would only look at well into the future.

"I've thought about it as an 'in 10 years' time' sort of thing," Green said when asked if he would consider giving away ? or at least consider deprioritising ? a bowling career that has so far netted him 35 Test wickets at 35.31.

"Down the track it's definitely an option but at the moment I'm very happy to be a genuine allrounder."

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

Watching some of the WA vs SA Shield game
For SA, 3 batsman so far out with 1st ball ducks. Jhye Richardson injured himself celebrating the 2nd wicket.

SA 4 for 31 chasing WA's 373

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024/25 - Aussie domestic cricket

SA all out for 253 today with Henry Hunt making a century
6 players went for a duck and 4 of those were Golden Ducks.
I haven't seen that sort of score much before.