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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

    Originally posted by Topdog
    The other dange is Essendon say no you screwed us around by dropping 6 picks in the first round. We need more than just pick 11
    They can but they'd be kidding themselves. They have no hand, Dodo can make his usual public threats, but no one takes him seriously.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

      Originally posted by Greystache
      They can but they'd be kidding themselves. They have no hand, Dodo can make his usual public threats, but no one takes him seriously.
      This. St Kilda have set this up today too. They've outright said 'pick 5 won't be traded for Carlisle under any circumstances'. To me that says if they can find a suitable trade from about ladder position 9th (ie Geelong, WB, Richmond or so) aka pick 10-12, it will be that pick. I think we should be trying to at least have a look in at it, be it Hrovat or Talia etc. And then go trading for big fish.
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      • Topdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7470

        Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

        Originally posted by Greystache
        They can but they'd be kidding themselves. They have no hand, Dodo can make his usual public threats, but no one takes him seriously.
        It's Essendon. When aren't they kidding themselves. They will screw themselves just so that they appear to be the winner.

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        • boydogs
          WOOF Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 5842

          Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

          St Kilda might be the first to trade next year's picks and offer Essendon their first rounder next year, which could be closer to pick 10, instead of this years pick 5

          However given they are interested in Hrovat, 5 for Hrovat & 11 makes a lot of sense. I think the points system that says the difference between picks 5 and 11 is pick 33 or 34 is about right, and that's about Hrovat's worth after this year.

          You don't normally sell low when a player isn't going well, but we could get decent value here by getting involved in the Carlisle trade and we do need to move on the smaller guys that don't kick on with Hrovat, Honeychurch, Hunter, Daniel, Dahlhaus, McLean and possibly McPherson on the list as sub-180cm mid-forwards

          If that trade doesn't eventuate, I would do pick 11 for Lachie Henderson. Capable of kicking big bags of goals and playing at both ends
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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10034

            Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

            Originally posted by boydogs
            St Kilda might be the first to trade next year's picks and offer Essendon their first rounder next year, which could be closer to pick 10, instead of this years pick 5

            However given they are interested in Hrovat, 5 for Hrovat & 11 makes a lot of sense. I think the points system that says the difference between picks 5 and 11 is pick 33 or 34 is about right, and that's about Hrovat's worth after this year.

            You don't normally sell low when a player isn't going well, but we could get decent value here by getting involved in the Carlisle trade and we do need to move on the smaller guys that don't kick on with Hrovat, Honeychurch, Hunter, Daniel, Dahlhaus, McLean and possibly McPherson on the list as sub-180cm mid-forwards

            If that trade doesn't eventuate, I would do pick 11 for Lachie Henderson. Capable of kicking big bags of goals and playing at both ends
            We aren't getting 5 for Hrovat and 11. An irregular playing, undersized tweener is not worth a 6 pick upgrade at the top of the draft.

            And Henderson for 11 is WAY overs, considering the amount of leverage Carlton have, and how good he actually is.
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11058

              Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

              Originally posted by Topdog
              It's Essendon. When aren't they kidding themselves. They will screw themselves just so that they appear to be the winner.
              They cave when stared in the face - remember when they were "not going to accept pick 26 for Crameri" under any circumstances. Dirty club.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65659

                Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                Scott Selwood confirms he wants to join his brother at Geelong.

                Geelong really pushing it with Danger, Henderson and Selwood.
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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 10910

                  Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Scott Selwood confirms he wants to join his brother at Geelong.

                  Geelong really pushing it with Danger, Henderson and Selwood.
                  Don't forget Zac Smith as well.

                  Just have to hope that Adelaide and West Coast both force Geelong to trade.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34316

                    Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Scott Selwood confirms he wants to join his brother at Geelong.

                    Geelong really pushing it with Danger, Henderson and Selwood.
                    If the reports are Geelong is being forced to trade because Adelaide match the offer, they won't have the picks left to get Henderson. They might have to pony up players for trade.
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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65659

                      Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      Don't forget Zac Smith as well.

                      Just have to hope that Adelaide and West Coast both force Geelong to trade.
                      Apparently Geelong have made an offer and West Coast have 3 days to respond.
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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14496

                        Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        If the reports are Geelong is being forced to trade because Adelaide match the offer, they won't have the picks left to get Henderson. They might have to pony up players for trade.
                        Some talk it'll be Geelongs next year first round for Hendo and Carltons second round, may need some sweeteners.
                        Last edited by chef; 09-10-2015, 06:39 PM.
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                        • boydogs
                          WOOF Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 5842

                          Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          We aren't getting 5 for Hrovat and 11. An irregular playing, undersized tweener is not worth a 6 pick upgrade at the top of the draft.
                          Is he worth pick 33?

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          And Henderson for 11 is WAY overs, considering the amount of leverage Carlton have, and how good he actually is.
                          I'd take Henderson over Carlisle. Genuine swingman without the WADA or attitude issues
                          If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 43942

                            Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            We aren't getting 5 for Hrovat and 11. An irregular playing, undersized tweener is not worth a 6 pick upgrade at the top of the draft.

                            And Henderson for 11 is WAY overs, considering the amount of leverage Carlton have, and how good he actually is.
                            I tend to agree. I think the reasons we are speculating on this is:
                            - The Saints have made it clear they won't trade pick 5 for Carlisle not that Carlisle is worth that anyway
                            - The Saints have also expressed an interest in Hrovat and we haven't played him a lot.
                            - Pick 11 is a fairer compensation for Carlisle
                            - The Saints could potentially get a KPD and a midfielder for pick 5.

                            It sounds like we aren't prepared to trade Hrovat unless someone was prepared to pay overs and that is unlikely.

                            I'm also not sure if there is a particular player we would be interested in to warrant moving up the order.
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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65659

                              Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                              Jed Anderson from Hawks has asked to be traded. Only 21, and a good prospect.
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                              • lemmon
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 6437

                                Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Jed Anderson from Hawks has asked to be traded. Only 21, and a good prospect.
                                I would chase him hard, the kid has the complete bag of tools for an inside midfielder. Apparently we were dead keen on him prior to the draft

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