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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11539

    Originally posted by GVGjr

    I nearly fell out of my chair when I read Frosts name but I do get the logic.
    As a one off solution adding someone like Frost might be worth considering but I hope we explore many other options before we get to that stage. Young, Butts, Blight and even M.McGovern to me would be better options.
    There will be a few more names as well.
    As you know, I'm seat 1A on the get Wilkie bandwagon, and failing that pursuit I'd be very happy to secure either of Butts or Young . All these 3 can add to our defensive structure by slotting in to that crucial anchor point role to free up Lobb, JOD, etc.

    McGovern cannot play this role - he's a very nice player but he's too similar to what we already have. Blight has just been delisted by a bottom 4 team - we don't really have time to waste on umproven types. May is beyond cooked (thankfully we aren't pursuing).

    Frost played the whole season last year and understandably took a back seat to Barrass this year. He's now surplus to requirements at Hawthorn (they have Jai Serong as well, highly unlikely the Hawks will let him go). If we failed to get any of Wilkie, Butts or Young, I'm happy to put my name to Frost on the 4th line of betting - call me crazy or Lloyd Braun.

    What we can't do is not bolster the back half, and rely only on incremental improvement from within. We may as well sack Bevo now and pay him out because we won't be improving in 2026 with the same personnel in the back 6.
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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 8009

      Originally posted by GVGjr

      I nearly fell out of my chair when I read Frosts name but I do get the logic.
      As a one off solution adding someone like Frost might be worth considering but I hope we explore many other options before we get to that stage.
      Young, Butts, Blight, Serong and even M.McGovern to me would be better options.
      There will be a few more names as well when the trade period starts.
      Fell out of your chair? I nearly threw it across the room!

      Look we could do worse (ie do nothing) but I'd hope we're a little more ambitious (which we are). I just hope it's not all do or die with Wilkie.

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      • macca
        Coaching Staff
        • Sep 2007
        • 2391

        Originally posted by Bornadog
        Sam Edmund says, Saints yet to present Wilkie with an increase in dollars. Currently on around $750K, but we have upped this by $400k, which has made him think.

        Wilkie is waiting to hear from Saints and is also a possible future captain. Is he using us?
        Our premiership window is open now.

        Throw the $$$ at Wilki , $1 million for next 2 years. He is one of the Key missing pieces in our backline. Mature back who can help coach the young backline. when Doc was not playing I sensed there was some immaturity with the backline.

        Next year we get Cody back
        another pre-season in Donaldson ( winger) , with Baker on the other side.
        We have 1 more year blooded the youngsters. I am hoping Bussingliner can overtake wilkie in 2 more years. The VFL team just won a GF with a lot of 1 and 2nd year players.

        Just have to sort out the Ruck when English gets monstered by big Rucks.

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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10225

          I actually thought Frost was pretty good in 2024 and does the things that we don’t have, but I don’t know if my heart could take the chaos he brings when he has the ball. Plus we (or at least I) haven’t had a look at him in 12 months, in a year where guys can fall off a cliff. I wouldn’t exactly go out of my way to bring him in but I wouldn’t melt if we had a look at him through SPP.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11387

            Originally posted by Sedat
            they have Jai Serong as well, highly unlikely the Hawks will let him go
            He's out of contract so I don't think the Hawks will have much choice if he decides to leave. We aren't among the teams rumoured to be interested however.

            Given he's only played 10 games in 4 years (none this year) I'm not sure why he would stay and the Hawks aren't going to be able to demand too much at the trade table.

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            • 1eyedog
              Hall of Fame
              • Mar 2008
              • 13356

              Originally posted by Sedat
              As you know, I'm seat 1A on the get Wilkie bandwagon, and failing that pursuit I'd be very happy to secure either of Butts or Young . All these 3 can add to our defensive structure by slotting in to that crucial anchor point role to free up Lobb, JOD, etc.

              McGovern cannot play this role - he's a very nice player but he's too similar to what we already have. Blight has just been delisted by a bottom 4 team - we don't really have time to waste on umproven types. May is beyond cooked (thankfully we aren't pursuing).

              Frost played the whole season last year and understandably took a back seat to Barrass this year. He's now surplus to requirements at Hawthorn (they have Jai Serong as well, highly unlikely the Hawks will let him go). If we failed to get any of Wilkie, Butts or Young, I'm happy to put my name to Frost on the 4th line of betting - call me crazy or Lloyd Braun.

              What we can't do is not bolster the back half, and rely only on incremental improvement from within. We may as well sack Bevo now and pay him out because we won't be improving in 2026 with the same personnel in the back 6.
              I don't hate your suggestion he would come cheap and is definitely a player who can hold his ground in the box.

              Apparently a good upstanding citizen as well.
              But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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              • NAUGHTY100
                Draftee
                • Dec 2024
                • 572

                Originally posted by Sedat
                I can't believe I'm about to utter these words. If we ultimately fail to land Wilkie and/or Butts, Sam Frost would be worth considering for a rookie spot IMO. He brain-fades with the best of them but he is very strong and can hold his own against the gorillas. Also has pace off the mark and can go with the opposition lead-up forwards. He comes from an elite defensive system at Hawthorn and could provide that crucial anchor point to make Lobb so much more effective as an interceptor/3rd man up.

                He's far from perfect - he is what he is. But he can defend 1-on-1 better than anyone else currently on our list.

                Alright peeps, let fly with the rotten fruit.
                Dont mean to be negative about your post Sedat , but omg Frost , maybe his ok 1 on 1 but wow what he does with the ball after winning that 1 on 1 worries me , we can't afford another backman who turns the ball over so regularly and not to mention his brain fades , im sorry but its a big NO for me .

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                • Dogs 24/7
                  Senior Player
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1233

                  Budarick appeals to me as a Duryea and maybe a JJ replacement.
                  The other advantage is that he's played more than 50 senior games which means he's served his apprenticeship

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67532

                    Originally posted by NAUGHTY100

                    Dont mean to be negative about your post Sedat , but omg Frost , maybe his ok 1 on 1 but wow what he does with the ball after winning that 1 on 1 worries me , we can't afford another backman who turns the ball over so regularly and not to mention his brain fades , im sorry but its a big NO for me .
                    Yes watched Frost in the VFL Prelim and my Hawks mate said we should have a look at him. I was not impressed with what I saw. Hawks have delisted him for a reason.
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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 8009

                      Originally posted by NAUGHTY100

                      Dont mean to be negative about your post Sedat , but omg Frost , maybe his ok 1 on 1 but wow what he does with the ball after winning that 1 on 1 worries me , we can't afford another backman who turns the ball over so regularly and not to mention his brain fades , im sorry but its a big NO for me .
                      Well hey, winning 1 on 1 and obtaining the ball is already an upgrade on our current personnel. Just have Bailey Dale hang around him at all times for an outlet handball.

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                      • Dogs 24/7
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1233

                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        As you know, I'm seat 1A on the get Wilkie bandwagon, and failing that pursuit I'd be very happy to secure either of Butts or Young . All these 3 can add to our defensive structure by slotting in to that crucial anchor point role to free up Lobb, JOD, etc.

                        McGovern cannot play this role - he's a very nice player but he's too similar to what we already have. Blight has just been delisted by a bottom 4 team - we don't really have time to waste on umproven types. May is beyond cooked (thankfully we aren't pursuing).

                        Frost played the whole season last year and understandably took a back seat to Barrass this year. He's now surplus to requirements at Hawthorn (they have Jai Serong as well, highly unlikely the Hawks will let him go). If we failed to get any of Wilkie, Butts or Young, I'm happy to put my name to Frost on the 4th line of betting - call me crazy or Lloyd Braun.

                        What we can't do is not bolster the back half, and rely only on incremental improvement from within. We may as well sack Bevo now and pay him out because we won't be improving in 2026 with the same personnel in the back 6.
                        All good points. I'm hoping we look far and wide rather than settling on a player for a short term bandaid.
                        We might as well have thrown an extra 100K a season at Silvagni.

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                        • NAUGHTY100
                          Draftee
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 572

                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

                          Well hey, winning 1 on 1 and obtaining the ball is already an upgrade on our current personnel. Just have Bailey Dale hang around him at all times for an outlet handball.
                          Umm yeah ok , if you think having Dale or whoever hang around him for handballs is a good idea then lets get Frost , but iv watched him enough times to know that he will give the ball away he will have brain fades , and we just can't afford to have another bad ball user in our back line , but thats why this forum is so good differing opinions .
                          Still a big no for me .

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45273

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                            "It just doesn't sound like Jordon Butts is going to leave Adelaide." - Riley Beveridge on Jordon Butts
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                            • Aidan7557
                              Rookie List
                              • Jan 2025
                              • 232

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
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                              "It just doesn't sound like Jordon Butts is going to leave Adelaide." - Riley Beveridge on Jordon Butts
                              Terrible. If we don't get Wilkie I just see no other options. I still think the only way Butts gets done is if we offer way overs and it doesn't seem like he evens wants a trade. Not good at all.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45273

                                Originally posted by Aidan7557

                                Terrible. If we don't get Wilkie I just see no other options. I still think the only way Butts gets done is if we offer way overs and it doesn't seem like he evens wants a trade. Not good at all.
                                He's a handy player but he's no Brian Lake. We will find other options.
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