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  • EasternWest
    Hall of Fame
    • Aug 2009
    • 10106

    Originally posted by 1eyedog

    West Coast legit closer to a flag than the Aints. Wilkie knows it too so many holes still in their list.

    He's one of the last couple of pieces in the jigsaw for us.
    Oh I agree totally, I'm just wondering if he's a jerk for taking the money if he does. It seems to be the prevailing opinion on players who leave for more cash.
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • 1eyedog
      Hall of Fame
      • Mar 2008
      • 13356

      Originally posted by EasternWest

      Oh I agree totally, I'm just wondering if he's a jerk for taking the money if he does. It seems to be the prevailing opinion on players who leave for more cash.
      Yeah I read between the lines. He's basically Dosh Junkley MkII.

      Just win us a flag ffs.
      But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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      • mighty_west
        Coaching Staff
        • Feb 2008
        • 3480

        Originally posted by Aidan7557
        A lot of noise building around butters. Does anyone see a world where we could get Jamarra to the suns for their pick 13 or 6?. Marra, pick 28, future second for Suns pick 6 or 13. We would most likely have to pay Marra's full wage too. Then we could go pick 10, (6 or 13) and future first for Butters and maybe their 2025 or 2026 second. But the big question for me is still Butts who is an obvious need (or any key defender of note). No way we could get butters and wilkie done....
        The report suggested it was Hardwick who is keen on Jamarra (which you could understand given he wants highly rated talent with experience and not picks), again they have a thousand highly rated academy players in this draft, so their high picks would have to be on the table, remember they gave away a top 10 pick and Bose for nothing really in return, we need to Butter up with them to get their high picks to help them out, Jamarra if he comes good would be massive for the Suns long term and that would be Hardwicks thinking, i reckon he'd have a lot of pull when it comes to bringing players in, in reality they would be our perfect club to deal with.

        On Butters, he or his manager really needs to let Port know that he will want a return either this or next season (if he really wants back to Vic), because they would get back in return a lot more now than next year with compo, that would have to be tempting.

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        • Aidan7557
          Rookie List
          • Jan 2025
          • 232

          Say we miss out on Wilkie and NO other key defender options come about would anyone be comfortable trading a first round selection for Jordan Butts? Or would you back in the boys there mainly O'donnell and Buss to dramatically improve?

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10106

            Originally posted by Aidan7557
            Say we miss out on Wilkie and NO other key defender options come about would anyone be comfortable trading a first round selection for Jordan Butts? Or would you back in the boys there mainly O'donnell and Buss to dramatically improve?
            GREAT question - lots of potential sliding doors.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67531

              Originally posted by EasternWest

              Oh I agree totally, I'm just wondering if he's a jerk for taking the money if he does. It seems to be the prevailing opinion on players who leave for more cash.
              Only if they play for us and leave for more money
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              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • soupman
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2007
                • 5147

                Originally posted by jazzadogs

                We can trade up to 2027 picks now, so I think there will be ways for us to satisfy the other clubs if we need to.

                A happy hypothetical trade week for us...(somebody has to go full BT, might as well be me...)

                Buku for pick 35 (this might depend on what the Blues get for Curnow...if they get early picks they might be open to swaps because they have an early bid to match).

                Marra, pick 10 and pick 28 (1781 points) for pick 6 (1659 points) and Budarick. Really this is a points trade, plus Marra for Budarick. Banking on Gold Coasts history of being horrible at the trade table continuing here...

                Pick 6 and either 2026/27 future 2nd for Butters and 42.

                Sanders OR either 2026/27 future 1st (hopefully 18) for Wilkie.

                Ins - Budarick, pick 35, Butters, Pick 42, Wilkie
                Outs - Buku, Marra, pick 10, pick 28, 2026/27 future 1st and 2nd

                2025 draft hand - pick 35, pick 42
                2026 draft hand - 3rd and 4th round picks - this is a concern with Levi West and El Souki available to us
                I think most of these are a little optimistic, but like the intent.

                Buku for 35 is fine, they might ask for something back but only like a future 4th or something, I'd hold out.

                I like the GC trade, No idea how much Budarick is worth (I'd guess similiar to Buku), Marra is worth nothing and if we can get him off the books that is the real win.

                Think Port would ask for three first rounders for Butters. Pick 6 maybe knocks down the price but I'd think they'd demand three picks averaging 15 or 2 top 10s. Pick 6 and both future 2nds maybe gets there, otherwise fro their pov they can keep him for another year and either be pretty good and sell staying to him or be pretty bad and get a compo pick around 6 in a better draft anyway.

                I think Saints will ask for two first rounders averaging 15ish for Wilkie, pick 6 or Sanders might be enough to convince them though.

                I don't think we can get both Wilkie and Butters, especially as both are contracted and unlikely to agitate proper for the move. This isn't like the Dunkley scenario where we can just trade out our best pick and then cobble together some random flotsam as our "best possible offer".

                I'd hope we could do the following:

                10 and future 2nd for Wilkie. They might want a little more, would be open to a pick in the 30s

                Buku for 35.

                Butts in for 28 (ours) and 35 (Carltons). Get a later pick back (49 I think?)

                Budarick for a future third (or downgrade a future 2nd (2027) into a future 3rd).

                Leaves us with 46 and 49 to use on Darcy.

                Still have 2026 first rounder, targeting getting Butters as a FA 2026, but could use that to help trade for him if need be.
                I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5147

                  Originally posted by Aidan7557
                  Say we miss out on Wilkie and NO other key defender options come about would anyone be comfortable trading a first round selection for Jordan Butts? Or would you back in the boys there mainly O'donnell and Buss to dramatically improve?
                  I don't think a fourth in line key defender is worth that at the table. Think two picks in the 25-40 range should suffice.
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • Dogs 24/7
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1233

                    Originally posted by EasternWest

                    Oh I agree totally, I'm just wondering if he's a jerk for taking the money if he does. It seems to be the prevailing opinion on players who leave for more cash.
                    There is no doubt he would fit in brilliantly at our side and I'm not as worried about his perceived lack of height as some might be.
                    As the captain in waiting at the Saints I think the fact that the likes of Leek Aleer will be on financially a lot more than him has opened the door for us to make an offer.
                    In the next week or so we will see if Wilkie pressures the Saints to make a decision on a pay rise or if he asks them to work with us on a trade.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10222

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      So if we have offered Wilkie 400k extra than he has been offered at the Saints and he takes it then we have to hate him because he's a mercenary right? And if Saints win a flag we have to say of Wilkie "could've had a flag" every time he gets mentioned. That's how it works, right?
                      Don’t make me tap the sign
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67531

                        Saints are really revamping their list

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                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 8009

                          Originally posted by Bornadog
                          Saints are really revamping their list

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                          The wheels are in motion Jerry.

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                          • Sedat
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 11538

                            Originally posted by EasternWest
                            So if we have offered Wilkie 400k extra than he has been offered at the Saints and he takes it then we have to hate him because he's a mercenary right? And if Saints win a flag we have to say of Wilkie "could've had a flag" every time he gets mentioned. That's how it works, right?
                            Outside of footy, Wilkie is an accountant by trade. He would be doing his profession a disservice if he wasn't mercenary in contract negotiations with the Saints.
                            "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                            • Sedat
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 11538

                              I can't believe I'm about to utter these words. If we ultimately fail to land Wilkie and/or Butts, Sam Frost would be worth considering for a rookie spot IMO. He brain-fades with the best of them but he is very strong and can hold his own against the gorillas. Also has pace off the mark and can go with the opposition lead-up forwards. He comes from an elite defensive system at Hawthorn and could provide that crucial anchor point to make Lobb so much more effective as an interceptor/3rd man up.

                              He's far from perfect - he is what he is. But he can defend 1-on-1 better than anyone else currently on our list.

                              Alright peeps, let fly with the rotten fruit.
                              "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45267

                                Originally posted by Sedat
                                I can't believe I'm about to utter these words. If we ultimately fail to land Wilkie and/or Butts, Sam Frost would be worth considering for a rookie spot IMO. He brain-fades with the best of them but he is very strong and can hold his own against the gorillas. Also has pace off the mark and can go with the opposition lead-up forwards. He comes from an elite defensive system at Hawthorn and could provide that crucial anchor point to make Lobb so much more effective as an interceptor/3rd man up.

                                He's far from perfect - he is what he is. But he can defend 1-on-1 better than anyone else currently on our list.

                                Alright peeps, let fly with the rotten fruit.
                                I nearly fell out of my chair when I read Frosts name but I do get the logic.
                                As a one off solution adding someone like Frost might be worth considering but I hope we explore many other options before we get to that stage.
                                Young, Butts, Blight, Serong and even M.McGovern to me would be better options.
                                There will be a few more names as well when the trade period starts.
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