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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7697

    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

    Originally posted by Grantysghost
    It's a pretty unsavoury industry that deliberately tricks its clients.
    What industry isn't like that these days?

    The complete absence of regulation online has created so many problems for society and its about to get a whole lot worse with AI.

    I remember the (somewhat fake) concern there was for AI a few years ago when it was in its commercial infancy. Now it's a complete free for all without any concern for the future. You've even got most tech companies blatantly advertising its fu**ery.

    I know a purposely misleading quote is a galaxy away from AI, but the point around lack of regulation and controls online is the same. Society is suffering for it.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66697

      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

      Originally posted by Axe Man
      As already mentioned they are deliberately making it unclear - they are saying the Saints natural first round pick followed by band 1 compo for Battle. That is still highly doubtful as someone would have to pay huge overs to trigger band one compo.
      The whole compo system sucks and all the clubs are effected. Need a new system.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44632

        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

        If the Saints get pick 5 for Josh Battle then it confirms a few things
        That God does like Battlers and that he is indeed a Saint.

        That is a gift from God if it plays out that way.
        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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        • Sedat
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2007
          • 11245

          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          If the Saints get pick 5 for Josh Battle then it confirms a few things
          That God does like Battlers and that he is indeed a Saint.

          That is a gift from God if it plays out that way.
          Sounds like all that whingeing from Bassat is going to pay off.
          "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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          • Happy Days
            Hall of Fame
            • May 2008
            • 10139

            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            If the Saints get pick 5 for Josh Battle then it confirms a few things
            That God does like Battlers and that he is indeed a Saint.

            That is a gift from God if it plays out that way.
            They’ll just draft someone bad with the pick anyway. If they get two picks in the top 10 can we try and make sure to have the pick straight after again?
            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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            • mighty_west
              Coaching Staff
              • Feb 2008
              • 3438

              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

              Originally posted by bornadog
              The whole compo system sucks and all the clubs are effected. Need a new system.
              The problem i see is that clubs can offer huge contracts to trigger an early first round pick for good ordinary players, but then either front or back end load a contract, that is the issue for me, stop that and clubs may think twice about giving players like that such large contracts, if player A is on 500K per season for 4 years, then make them earn that 500K for each season.

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              • JanLorMill
                WOOF Member
                • Feb 2023
                • 1688

                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                Isn't Battle an unrestricted free agent? Saints can't drive up his price(match) to get good compensation.

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                • mighty_west
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3438

                  Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                  Originally posted by JanLorMill
                  Isn't Battle an unrestricted free agent? Saints can't drive up his price(match) to get good compensation.
                  Saints can still offer him a big fat contract if they were desperate for him to say in which the Hawks would have to up the ante to pry him out of the St Kilda, ultimately the decision is Battle's and if he is sitting on the fence umming and arr'ing, the Hawks would probably have to offer something quite decent for him to leave which then up's what the Saints get in return which is what, pick 5? they'd be pushing him out.

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                  • FrediKanoute
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3826

                    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                    Originally posted by Grantysghost
                    Pick 4 AND pick 5.
                    What is Bailey Smith worth then.........

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                    • Hotdog60
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 5904

                      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                      Originally posted by FrediKanoute
                      What is Bailey Smith worth then.........
                      Its the Dogs so we will have to pay half his salary and we get end of the 4 round compo.
                      Don't piss off old people
                      The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                      • JanLorMill
                        WOOF Member
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 1688

                        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                        Originally posted by mighty_west
                        Saints can still offer him a big fat contract if they were desperate for him to say in which the Hawks would have to up the ante to pry him out of the St Kilda, ultimately the decision is Battle's and if he is sitting on the fence umming and arr'ing, the Hawks would probably have to offer something quite decent for him to leave which then up's what the Saints get in return which is what, pick 5? they'd be pushing him out.
                        Sorry but he is unrestricted hawks don’t need to match the saints at all. The hawks offer could be less than the saints one.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66697

                          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                          Originally posted by JanLorMill
                          Sorry but he is unrestricted hawks don’t need to match the saints at all. The hawks offer could be less than the saints one.
                          Then he takes the Saints offer which is more
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                          • mighty_west
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3438

                            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                            Originally posted by JanLorMill
                            Sorry but he is unrestricted hawks don’t need to match the saints at all. The hawks offer could be less than the saints one.
                            Yes but the Hawks still have to try and see how much bait it takes for him to want to move? Just because you're an unrestricted free agent, doesn't mean you WANT to move, the Hawks obviously see him as part of their big plan going forward for future success as a possible player available under the free agent tag but he may be happy as a Saint unless................that bait is too juicy if you know what i mean.

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                            • JanLorMill
                              WOOF Member
                              • Feb 2023
                              • 1688

                              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Then he takes the Saints offer which is more
                              He might want to just leave. Not play under Lyon or go to club that’s going places.

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                              • mighty_west
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3438

                                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                                He might want to just leave. Not play under Lyon or go to club that’s going places.
                                I don't know the facts but from reading the media Sam Mitchell has been working overtime to try and pry him out of Moorabbin, plus offering him a big contract enough to trigger a first round compo pick suggests to me that he's more than happy as a Saint but the big fat contract could be what it takes, just a hunch though.

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