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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

    Originally posted by Go_Dogs
    Yeah. It’s tough. The NBA in many ways is far better with how they facilitate trades and contracts, and salary caps, albeit it means that loyalty is much rarer and players change teams as often as their underwear and that’s one of the differentiators that makes our game so great.

    It would be good if similar to RFA type rules, another club could match / exceed the offer and we could entertain it. Would prevent players from being able to nominate and only move to one club. Dunno. Maybe not. But they need a way to facilitate competition when multiple clubs would be prepared to do the deal to ensure the club gets the best outcome too (or at least, a reasonable one).
    It’s great that clubs are loyal, and I was so sympathetic to that argument for a long time. But many players are now mercenaries that show no loyalty the other way. When Baz walks he will be the poster boy for this too. The players have moved passed loyalty and the clubs, fans and AFEL should too.

    That doesn’t mean clubs or players can’t choose to be loyal. But where it serves the clubs purpose to trade out a Stringer without making the reasons so obvious, or Dunkley or Baz to the highest bidder, or float out a Hunter before it becomes a freebie to another club, then a club should have some right to protect its list and serve its fans this way.

    I think it needs to be a free for all because if the AFEL gets involved in it they will **** it up. Let the market sort it out. But until then (which will never happen as the AFLPA won’t ever agree to it) I’d love to stop bleeding players for unders.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Grantysghost
      Bouncing Strong
      • Apr 2010
      • 19112

      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

      Not many clubs would lose their best and fairest and future captain in his prime for Charlie Clarke... And I can't remember the rest.
      Its bad though!
      Edit it was part of the Sanders cache of picks. Basically a sweetener.
      BT COME BACK!​

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Not many clubs would lose their best and fairest and future captain in his prime for Charlie Clarke... And I can't remember the rest.
        Its bad though!
        Edit it was part of the Sanders cache of picks. Basically a sweetener.
        Charlie Clarke, O’Driscoll & one of three first rounders for Sanders/Freijah/one third of Croft/Pick c.50 this year
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 19112

          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Charlie Clarke, O’Driscoll & one of three first rounders for Sanders/Freijah/one third of Croft/Pick c.50 this year
          Yuk BT yuk!

          I still remember Pickering in with the Lions team looking incredulous and smirking as we were holding out for a better deal.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            Yuk BT yuk!

            I still remember Pickering in with the Lions team looking incredulous and smirking as we were holding out for a better deal.
            The cherry on top was their arrogance to trade their first rounder out for a second rounder just to **** us harder. The next live pick after that was Josh Weddle. We got Clarke instead.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • Grantysghost
              Bouncing Strong
              • Apr 2010
              • 19112

              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              The cherry on top was their arrogance to trade their first rounder out for a second rounder just to **** us harder. The next live pick after that was Josh Weddle. We got Clarke instead.
              Pricks.
              BT COME BACK!​

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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5616

                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                Yeah. It?s tough. The NBA in many ways is far better with how they facilitate trades and contracts, and salary caps, albeit it means that loyalty is much rarer and players change teams as often as their underwear and that?s one of the differentiators that makes our game so great.

                It would be good if similar to RFA type rules, another club could match / exceed the offer and we could entertain it. Would prevent players from being able to nominate and only move to one club. Dunno. Maybe not. But they need a way to facilitate competition when multiple clubs would be prepared to do the deal to ensure the club gets the best outcome too (or at least, a reasonable one).
                This is what is required.

                Take the Dunkley case, where he wanted out to Brisbane.
                The contract to go should be available to all teams and if someone is prepared to match the club can then accept their best offer from anywhere.

                Would help clubs at the bottom rebuild and players would lose the right to dictate.

                They still get to choose where they go when they become unrestricted free agents.
                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                • jeemak
                  Bulldog Legend
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 22014

                  Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  This is what is required.

                  Take the Dunkley case, where he wanted out to Brisbane.
                  The contract to go should be available to all teams and if someone is prepared to match the club can then accept their best offer from anywhere.

                  Would help clubs at the bottom rebuild and players would lose the right to dictate.

                  They still get to choose where they go when they become unrestricted free agents.
                  At least as a minimum open up the opportunity to other teams within the state the player is targeting.
                  TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                  • Bulldog Joe
                    Premiership Moderator
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 5616

                    Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                    Originally posted by jeemak
                    At least as a minimum open up the opportunity to other teams within the state the player is targeting.
                    If their are valid reasons on going to a particular state, there should be no issues with facilitating a trade to the highest bidder in that state.

                    Where a particular team offers a contract they should be required to pay up.

                    I would require the club targeting to meet an arbitration on the deal if they don't deal in good faith. This would also apply to the club said playing is departing from.
                    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10209

                      Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                      Lobbster > Barrass
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Critter
                        Rookie List
                        • Jan 2023
                        • 486

                        Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                        Forgive me if this has already been mooted, but how about a straight swap with Collingwood involving Caleb Daniel and John Noble? I see it as a win/win. Collingwood need a distributor/link man, we need a running small defender to replace Doc.

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                        • Go_Dogs
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10209

                          Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                          Originally posted by Critter
                          Forgive me if this has already been mooted, but how about a straight swap with Collingwood involving Caleb Daniel and John Noble? I see it as a win/win. Collingwood need a distributor/link man, we need a running small defender to replace Doc.
                          The issue I see with Noble is he turns the bal over frequently in bad spots. We beat them earlier this year largely
                          Because of his great work setting us up.

                          Small defender is definitely an area of need.
                          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6908

                            Re: Trade Rumours 2024

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                            • Dogs 24/7
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 1215

                              Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                              Do the Hawks have the capacity to chase both Smith and Barrass in terms of draft capital?

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                              • ReLoad
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1476

                                Re: Trade Rumours 2024

                                Originally posted by Dogs 24/7
                                Do the Hawks have the capacity to chase both Smith and Barrass in terms of draft capital?
                                they know smith is going to geelong.

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