ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

[hujsh]

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Under the new forum software I am not sure how to do that.

You had it right but only had the hyperlink over one letter. All I did was copy and paste what you had so the two words were included

[LostDoggy]

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I smell a rat.
Who has been getting 'witnesses' to change their tune?
Conspiracy theories anyone?

[jeemak]

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Well it's not like they've had a short time to prepare a legally sound case for not presenting to any tribunal hearing that might have been forthcoming.

Once again the AFL and those associated with it (in this case ASADA) are proven to be organisations sitting in a backwater and sluggish compared to anything that resembles modern capability.

We as a club continually get belted down because of our inability to modernise and keep best practice, but time and time again the governing body gets caught out and demonstrates a lower set of standards than they hold us to. This competition is a joke.

The amount of time and money they set aside for hammering everyone on the drug codes (recreational, and in-competition alike) was obviously geared towards PR and nothing else.

[FrediKanoute]

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If this is true, then ASADA should be hauled over the coals for bringing the game, Essendon and the players into disrepute.

[LostDoggy]

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I don't care if it falls over. Not guilty does not equate to totally innocent. We may never know what really happened, but we know for a fact that it's been monumental stuff-up after monumental stuff-up, and that doesn't restore any faith in the integrity of one red and black football club.

[soupman]

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I don't care if it falls over. Not guilty does not equate to totally innocent. We may never know what really happened, but we know for a fact that it's been monumental stuff-up after monumental stuff-up, and that doesn't restore any faith in the integrity of one red and black football club.

Not that the majority of their supporters will care.

They'll just get up on their high horse (yet again) and continue to tell anyone who'll listen that they were innocent, they did nothing wrong and Hirdy is a god.

[Bornadog]

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Essendon doping scandal: Shane Charter's admission 'gold', says ASADA

An admission on Fairfax Radio by biochemist Shane Charter that he sourced the banned thymosin beta 4 and delivered it to a chemist commissioned by Stephen Dank has been described as "gold" by Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority sources.Charter and compound pharmacist Nima Alavi have refused to attend an AFL anti-doping tribunal meeting convened for December 15 where evidence will be presented that 34 past and present Essendon players were injected with the banned drug by Dank, the architect of the AFL club's supplements program.
The refusal of the pair to attend the hearing has led to speculation in Melbourne that ASADA's case against the players will collapse, amid calls for them "to get off", rather than have Essendon's 2012 drugs regime put on trial.
In an interview of 3AW's breakfast program, Charter conceded ASADA had electronic evidence of him sourcing the banned drug from China and he admitted supplying it to Alavi.

Pressed on Dank's involvement, Charter admitted at the end of a long interview, "Dank asked for a range of peptides, including thymosin beta 4."

Link here

[josie]

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Essendon doping scandal: Shane Charter's admission 'gold', says ASADA



Link here

Thanks BAD - yeah, read this article in the Age this morning and appears there is likely enough circumstantial evidence anyway. It will be fascinating what Dank says now he is willing to appear as a witness. Why the hell has he stayed mum so long, and how can the process allow this to happen? Personally I do not think his testimony has much credence. More chapters to play out in this sad and sorry tale.

[Webby]

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A swinging pendulum sells papers! It's as simple as that. Just as with a sporting match, no one wants to keep the telly on when it's a lopsided contest.

Therefore the papers make out that it's a closely run thing. Then add a second element whereby certain journos have their tongues in Essendon FC's arse, and you can see through all this "Bombers are innocent" garbage.

Fact is, this is not a criminal hearing. ASADA don't need anything more than circumstantial evidence... And they have that by the truckload!

Everyone seems to think that there is some kind of "if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit" logic going on here. A kind of 'reasonable doubt' we see in criminal cases. This is not a criminal case. All the talk of star witnesses refusing to testify Wendy Peirce style is just hyperbolic nonsense.....

But it sells papers, so why not run the angle!?

[Twodogs]

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Thanks BAD - yeah, read this article in the Age this morning and appears there is likely enough circumstantial evidence anyway. It will be fascinating what Dank says now he is willing to appear as a witness. Why the hell has he stayed mum so long, and how can the process allow this to happen? Personally I do not think his testimony has much credence. More chapters to play out in this sad and sorry tale.

I think he's kept quiet because it was the one thing he could keep control of. Short of torturing him, and that probably would have been a bit OTT, they couldn't make him talk.

Anyway he's had a year and a half to come up with an excuse. It better be a doozy.

[LostDoggy]

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Not that the majority of their supporters will care.

They'll just get up on their high horse (yet again) and continue to tell anyone who'll listen that they were innocent, they did nothing wrong and Hirdy is a god.

Who cares what they say? They barrack for Essendon. Nuff said.

[ratsmac]

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I hate Essendon!

[Webby]

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I hate Essendon!

Betcha I've got your hatred covered with some interest!

[Ghost Dog]

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I hate Essendon!

I don't hate Essendon. I hate the nasty inner suburban clique that feeds of a club that many good working people, my father included, support. If you waste any moments looking at their internet forum 'Bomber Blitz' you will know what I mean. Anyone who criticizes the club in any way is hounded mercilessly.

[FrediKanoute]

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Did Charter really go on radio and say all of that? That is evidence! It can be supoenaed and tendered. They don't need him to testify! Yes he could retract and say that it was all lies, but you would then get a credibility issue.