Bevo's contract

[soupman]

Analyse the first minute of our EF vs the Hawks and it was all one way...it's ONE MINUTE of a game...the score at quarter time was 3:1 to 4:3...8-points! Even if those 8-points were scored in the first minute, who cares...

I don't understand how anyone can be thinking that spending one hour analysing one minute of footy - when everyone in their right mind would say "Hey, it's the first minute of a GF - there are probably a heap of emotions rolling around right now" in a game where they got flogged.

My point is that if they spent an hour on a minute, it's doubtful it was actually about that minute specifically.

It'd be pretty easy to use it as a microcosm of the game. Brisbane in that minute seem to have numbers everywhere, worked the ball around, were up for the contest and through a possession chain of about 10 worked there way up to a mark/freekick in front of goal. Sydney were rushed and wasteful with their few touches, and were barely on screen for much of it, and when they were they were mostly behind their player. The minute in itself is not that meaningful, but I can 100% see a coach using it to flesh out their argument that Sydney weren't good enough.

Add in asking leaders on their thoughts about that minute/the topics it represents over the game, maybe a bit of discussion about how the team felt the setup and mindset for the clash was, hammer home you're motto/takeaway from the game, it makes sense that they could get an hour out of the minute.

The remaining 6 hours though, that's the baffling bit. I'd expect if you do the 1st minute like I've said, you've covered the main big ticket items. I don't see the benefit of reviewing the rest of the game aside from maybe pulling aside some small specific examples to hammer home a point. More emotive stuff, because I don't see any benefit in going over specific tactical or in game decisions.

[jeemak]

I get nervous when I hear sporting teams and coaches talking about "home truths" being delivered. It's as if they think that after they're delivered people don't walk away from hearing them thinking that was a load of bullshit and it's very rare that you hear anything about material changes being made to address them. How many positive "home truth" stories are there out there anyway? Gary Ablett Jnr and Steve Johnson (people had talked about doing a Steve Johnson to JUH......what was done to him was done almost twenty years ago!!!)? I honestly don't know the answer to that, but what I do know the "home truth" strategy has been used by way more coaches and teams than there are success stories to back up the effectiveness of their delivery, because they're often delivered without nuance or context in a you didn't ****ing do this when you should have style. I mean you hear about them every preseason.

Like I said earlier in the thread, if Cox gets the team up and running and they improve we'll all look back on his review and say he's a genius. If they tank, it's likely nobody will mention the review (you have to do an Adelaide for it to make the headlines).

[GVGjr]

How much allowance should the club make for Bevo in terms of his coaching position and potential renegotiation of a contract given the mounting injury list to some key players?
Is it just bad luck and not a genuine excuse or do the club give him some wiggle room?

It will also be interesting to see how the normally blood thirsty media handles things if we get off to a slow start.
Will they come for him thick and fast or will they be a bit more realistic?

How will the club handle and aggressive media?

[Aidan7557]

How much allowance should the club make for Bevo in terms of his coaching position and potential renegotiation of a contract given the mounting injury list to some key players?
Is it just bad luck and not a genuine excuse or do the club give him some wiggle room?

It will also be interesting to see how the normally blood thirsty media handles things if we get off to a slow start.
Will they come for him thick and fast or will they be a bit more realistic?

How will the club handle and aggressive media?

Personally he gets a fair bit of allowance for the first part of the year. No coach can overcome 7 or 8 first team players including the top 5 in the best and fairest as of right now. It's impossible. The media do not like Bevo at all and I could say a few border on hating him. He has played a role in that no doubt but he is such an easy target to pick on, see the last 3 seasons. A lot of myths about our man Bevo being a bad coach that simply aren't true! In reality the media is like 10 people who sit at a desk on TV. That's all they really are and I do get shocked how often clubs buckle to so called "pressure" when it comes from these people. i don't mind the media at all and watch a lot of the shows but why clubs put so much weight into what these guys or girls says is bizarre. I give credit to our club who historically haven't buckled under this "media pressure" and have kept the course. Do they care about our injuries? Maybe but I blame Hawthorn's three peat side for inventing the "next man up" thing which 99% of the time isn't a reality in the AFL when you have to cover a third of your team. I'm guessing there might be some sympathy but Bevo is such an easy target and will most likely cop it for a slow start. That's ok but the club just needs to stay on the road and let the year develop. Again there are 23 games not 4 or 5. It's a long season.

[SonofScray]

How much allowance should the club make for Bevo in terms of his coaching position and potential renegotiation of a contract given the mounting injury list to some key players?
Is it just bad luck and not a genuine excuse or do the club give him some wiggle room?

It will also be interesting to see how the normally blood thirsty media handles things if we get off to a slow start.
Will they come for him thick and fast or will they be a bit more realistic?

How will the club handle and aggressive media?

Absolutely none.

injuries happen. You have to have a system and a strategy that allows for players to plug in as needed. We won a flag with a soldier in, soldier out approach.

[GVGjr]

Absolutely none.

injuries happen. You have to have a system and a strategy that allows for players to plug in as needed. We won a flag with a soldier in, soldier out approach.

Surely some considerations need to be made? Yes injuries happen but it's a mounting list that might have something to do with how the the fitness program has been implemented.
I certainly don't believe we lower the benchmarks but we have to look at the whole picture not just the wins and losses.

[SonofScray]

Surely some considerations need to be made? Yes injuries happen but it's a mounting list that might have something to do with how the the fitness program has been implemented.
I certainly don't believe we lower the benchmarks but we have to look at the whole picture not just the wins and losses.

Absolutely none.

injuries happen. Just the way it goes. He’s had a long tenure, we know on the balance of things what we are likely to get and the opportunity to convince us of an extension didn’t just start over summer and the start of 2025’s season.

We need to be definitive.

Not drag it out, or give the benefit of the doubt.He’s the man, or he isn’t. Results based, performance driven.

I’ve softened on my position on Bevo marginally, I can see a future where is rightfully extended.

But I can’t cop another year where we get off to a shocker, briefly come good, squeeze into finals and then get embarrassed. Especially if we are then going to put the slow start down to injuries, credit him with the run of form, ignore the final result and extend.

That scenario is depressing and will get me back on the war path re: cult like perception of the man’s infallibility that pervades the club.

[G-Mo77]

Absolutely none.

injuries happen. Just the way it goes. He’s had a long tenure, we know on the balance of things what we are likely to get and the opportunity to convince us of an extension didn’t just start over summer and the start of 2025’s season.

We need to be definitive.

Not drag it out, or give the benefit of the doubt.He’s the man, or he isn’t. Results based, performance driven.

I’ve softened on my position on Bevo marginally, I can see a future where is rightfully extended.

But I can’t cop another year where we get off to a shocker, briefly come good, squeeze into finals and then get embarrassed. Especially if we are then going to put the slow start down to injuries, credit him with the run of form, ignore the final result and extend.

That scenario is depressing and will get me back on the war path re: cult like perception of the man’s infallibility that pervades the club.

I think that is what will save him for next season. Fall short on an elimination final we can say "Well we had injuries to X and long term injury to Y" There is an excuse and it will be used. He should have been let go last season IMO at no point in the 2024 season we were on track with the heavy hitters of this league.

[Hotdog60]

Sign him up for other 10 years and let him coach. Come get me.

[Topdog]

He gets no leeway from me. Injuries happen and lets be honest its hard to remember the last time we had a consistent season from start to finish so in the back of my mind I'll be wondering 'is this injuries or is this just a normal Bevo side'

[jeemak]

You have to look at things like planning and preparation closely to see whether Beveridge and his coaching team are playing their part. But if you don't have the cattle you don't have the cattle, and while you can cover some losses it starts getting difficult once a certain level of depletion in your top ranks occurs.

[jazzadogs]

I think that is what will save him for next season. Fall short on an elimination final we can say "Well we had injuries to X and long term injury to Y" There is an excuse and it will be used. He should have been let go last season IMO at no point in the 2024 season we were on track with the heavy hitters of this league.

The four game stretch where we defeated Carlton, Geelong, Sydney and Melbourne we were certainly on track, and really from the midway point of the season our gameplay was as good as anyone.

Of the other finalists, we beat 1st, 3rd, 4th and 8th. We were 6th, and failed to beat Port and Hawks.

[jazzadogs]

You can't say that he gets no leeway at all for injuries to the best player in the comp, our fullback, our AWOL full forward, our AA mid - and the rest.

If we get smacked by 10 goals each week, that's a different story. But if we are competitive, well structured and just get outclassed, I will be giving him leeway for that.

[jeemak]

You can't say that he gets no leeway at all for injuries to the best player in the comp, our fullback, our AWOL full forward, our AA mid - and the rest.

If we get smacked by 10 goals each week, that's a different story. But if we are competitive, well structured and just get outclassed, I will be giving him leeway for that.

People/ the media will want it both ways. They'll say we should be good because of how "staaaaaacked" we are for talent, but then when that talent isn't available won't make an allowance for how that might impact performance.

[Topdog]

The four game stretch where we defeated Carlton, Geelong, Sydney and Melbourne we were certainly on track, and really from the midway point of the season our gameplay was as good as anyone.

Of the other finalists, we beat 1st, 3rd, 4th and 8th. We were 6th, and failed to beat Port and Hawks.

we got embarrassed by an inexperienced Hawthorn in the finals