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  • Rusty12
    Draftee
    • Dec 2024
    • 594

    Pound for pound mvp

    I will update this weekly, along with the yearly totals.

    The plan is to take my own player ratings (weighted towards the primary function of a player's role) and then, with some background math, convert that to a score out of 10 compared to the average player rating in that role across the comp.

    If a player serves multiple roles, it will be split across that game time or adjusted for reduced game time.

    Then, one more bit of math to adjust that score, based on the likely percentage that players take up of the salary cap (Bottom 33%, middle 33% and top 33%).

    10 = Carried the team, rare air role execution and impact on the result
    9-8 = Elite - Role execution and impact on the result
    7-6 = Good - Above Average - Role execution and impact on the result
    5 = Average - Role execution and impact on the result
    4-3 = Below Average - Role execution and impact on the result
    2-1 = Poor - Role execution and impact on the result

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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7363

    #2
    I've sent you a message!
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66707

      #3
      Thanks Rusty
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15307

        #4
        Great thread Rusty.

        To help with the context and the rational why did James O'Donnell rate better than Rory Lobb?
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66707

          #5
          Originally posted by azabob
          Great thread Rusty.

          To help with the context and the rational why did James O'Donnell rate better than Rory Lobb?
          Just to the naked eye, I think JOD played better the Lobb. Lobb was on a has been in Darling and JOD on a very dangerous FF. Yes Larkey kicked a few, but also got some very soft frees in front of goal.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Grantysghost
            Bouncing Strong
            • Apr 2010
            • 18959

            #6
            Love it Rusty!.....

            Until I saw McNeil's rating now I hate it
            BT COME BACK!​

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            • Mantis
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              I thought he was generous in his rating of McNeil’s game.

            • Scott2016
              Scott2016 commented
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              Good last quarter horrible first 3

            • The Underdog
              The Underdog commented
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              Just wait until after round 23 when he’s leading by a mile
          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14950

            #7
            Good concept, will generate plenty of chatter.
            Does Lobb get bonus points for playing out the game hurt?
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jan 2007
              • 8962

              #8
              Great initiative Rusty!

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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10002

                #9
                Love it Rusty.
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15307

                  #10
                  Originally posted by Bornadog

                  Just to the naked eye, I think JOD played better the Lobb. Lobb was on a has been in Darling and JOD on a very dangerous FF. Yes Larkey kicked a few, but also got some very soft frees in front of goal.
                  I think I actually preferred Lobb's game.

                  But the reason for my post was to get Rusty to expand further and the JOD / Lobb comparison seemed a good one.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10142

                    #11
                    Great another award that Bont is too good to win.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • Rusty12
                      Draftee
                      • Dec 2024
                      • 594

                      #12
                      All I have done is arm the computer. The rating is the rating; I don't tinker with it.
                      Based on the weightings.
                      JOD Vs Lobb - I would say Intercept Marks and the 1v1 contest rating and main difference.
                      JOD is not penalised for the injury, so if he plays the game out and gets beat in a couple of 1v1s or turns it over, every chance it gets closer between them.
                      Lobb was not bad; he did his job.
                      No bonus for Lobb playing injured; the assumption would be over the long season, swings and roundabouts with that.
                      5 for McNeil, it is a solid score. He did his job, not a knock at all. He is one of the lowest-paid players at the club, in the best 22, performing his role. Big thumbs up, and I know you are having a laugh; nothing short of 9 would suffice for McNeil.
                      Cheers

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15447

                        #13
                        Originally posted by Rusty12
                        5 for McNeil, it is a solid score. He did his job, not a knock at all. He is one of the lowest-paid players at the club, in the best 22, performing his role. Big thumbs up, and I know you are having a laugh; nothing short of 9 would suffice for McNeil.
                        Cheers
                        I would think that he wouldn’t be in the bottom 20% of earners.

                        Could nit pick over lots of the ratings but the 2 that stand out for me were JOD and Dolan.

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                        • lemmon
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6521

                          #14
                          Originally posted by Rusty12

                          The plan is to take my own player ratings (weighted towards the primary function of a player's role) and then, with some background math, convert that to a score out of 10 compared to the average player rating in that role across the comp.
                          Thanks, Rusty! Interesting thread.

                          Where does the role-specific average player rating come from?

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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10152

                            #15
                            Can you share the underlying rating system?

                            Love the concept and discussion it will drive. Thanks for sharing.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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