Pound for pound mvp

[Rusty12]

I'd be leaving it.

The data is the data mate. What's wrong with a 6???

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with 6.
6 every week, is a 200 game career and 600k per year.

[Rusty12]

It's not as good as a 7 or higher!

I understand the ratings in this are different, but the general consensus from those who voted on WOOF was that Dale was in our best 3-4 and the coaches gave him 3rd best so to see him well down in the MVP was surprising.

General consensus doesn't mean it is correct either.
Many factors influence that.
I dont use ratings for my own votes, and did not have Dale in my best 6.
I don't understand how the general consensus diddnt have Richards and English top 2 across the board, but we all see the game differently.

[Rusty12]

Huge scores for the defenders. Lobb, Cleary, Williams, JOD, Bramble, JJ, massive scores.

Yep, as they all "performed their role" to a high level.
Baily Dale is set up to get 30 touches, it is his role, and what he is paid for.
The ratings will dig into the outcome of those 30, and how he defends and cleans up when it is his turn.

[hujsh]

Rusty I believe I recall you elsewhere talking about just how amazing Ed Richards was statistically while most of us were focused on English.

Looking at the player ratings Ed was far beyond anyone else this round. It's the second best game by anyone this year (Zach Merritt getting a little better score round 2). A good callout I wanted to highlight,

[Axe Man]

I went to check how old he is, and this is on his Wikipedia...can anyone explain?

Bailey Williams (born 10 October 1997) is an Australian rules footballer playing for the Western Bulldogs in the Australian Football League (AFL). He is commonly referred to as 'the horse germ'. At 189 cm (6 ft 2 in) tall and 86 kg (190 lb), he plays primarily as a rebounding half-back who can shift into the midfield. He grew up in Adelaide, South Australia. He played top-level junior football with Glenelg in the South Australian National Football League. He was drafted by the Western Bulldogs with their fourth selection and forty-eighth overall in the 2015 AFL draft.[2][3][4] Since then, he has been a VFL premiership player, and a winner of the Tony Liberatore Most Improved Player Award.

Here I am referring to him as truck.

I guess anyone can edit wiki.

[Go_Dogs]

Good story behind the nickname from memory.

[1eyedog]

I went to check how old he is, and this is on his Wikipedia...can anyone explain?

Bailey Williams (born 10 October 1997) is an Australian rules footballer playing for the Western Bulldogs in the Australian Football League (AFL). He is commonly referred to as 'the horse germ'. At 189 cm (6 ft 2 in) tall and 86 kg (190 lb), he plays primarily as a rebounding half-back who can shift into the midfield. He grew up in Adelaide, South Australia. He played top-level junior football with Glenelg in the South Australian National Football League. He was drafted by the Western Bulldogs with their fourth selection and forty-eighth overall in the 2015 AFL draft.[2][3][4] Since then, he has been a VFL premiership player, and a winner of the Tony Liberatore Most Improved Player Award.

That's two nicknames in one joined there. It can be horse and it can be germ. Not sure about horse don't want to go there, germ is because he's a clean freak and a 'germophobe'. Truck is because of some running joke in the weights room.

[Rusty12]

Rusty I believe I recall you elsewhere talking about just how amazing Ed Richards was statistically while most of us were focused on English.

Looking at the player ratings Ed was far beyond anyone else this round. It's the second best game by anyone this year (Zach Merritt getting a little better score round 2). A good callout I wanted to highlight,

Thanks Mate, I get enough wrong, so nice to get one right.

[Go_Dogs]

That's two nicknames in one joined there. It can be horse and it can be germ. Not sure about horse don't want to go there, germ is because he's a clean freak and a 'germophobe'. Truck is because of some running joke in the weights room.

Pretty sure the story goes Bob Murphy told him to introduce himself to the playing group as horse (or something similar).

[Rusty12]

McNeil Fan Club will approve.
Naughton........... It is now a pattern.
Well done JOD.
Shocker for Bramble, but an event, not a pattern.

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[mjp]

McNeil Fan Club will approve.
Naughton........... It is now a pattern.
Well done JOD.
Shocker for Bramble, but an event, not a pattern.

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Williams frustrated me because in the conditions i wanted him to kick instead of handball...I felt he handballed (a lot)...haven't looked at a stat, must have been perception!

[Rusty12]

Williams frustrated me because in the conditions i wanted him to kick instead of handball...I felt he handballed (a lot)...haven't looked at a stat, must have been perception!

Sparked me interest.
Williams, 8 Kicks, 13HBs.
Dale 23 Kicks, 8 Hbs.
Considering Williams is usually a kick-first operator and the conditions, you are spot on.
Everything else, he was rock solid though, 8 intercepts for a guy, who has played and trained mostly wing for a few years.

[Bulldog Joe]

The McNeill fan club may approve, but there seem to be lots of detractors from this game on other threads.

Can you explain why he ranks so highly.

[Go_Dogs]

Looks like we had plenty of winners across the park but still lost??! I guess that happens. While we scored ok when we did, it never felt like we had control.

[Rusty12]

The McNeill fan club may approve, but there seem to be lots of detractors from this game on other threads.

Can you explain why he ranks so highly.

Pressure acts are not everything, but they are something, especially for pressure forwards. Most importantly, his acts led to turnovers.

6 score involvements.

He was tidy with ball in hand, on a night many were not.

He is compared to the Avg general forward across the comp.

Lower 1/3 cap.