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  • bulldogsthru&thru
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • May 2011
    • 7681

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    Originally posted by bornadog
    I mean in picks, not his salary. He is not worth a pick 3 - at minimum, Essendon should have given up their first rounder.
    Yeah I tend to think any compo should be after the first round at the earliest.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44089

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by bornadog
      I mean in picks, not his salary. He is not worth a pick 3 - at minimum, Essendon should have given up their first rounder.
      I don't mind the suggestion that clubs should have to give up something else with these FA plays. The AFL have a silly compensation approach that looks at the dollars not the players true ability and the compensation can be both excessive or insufficient.
      North landed pick 3 and perhaps they should have had to given something back.

      I'm not sure ladder positions should play into it.
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      • SquirrelGrip
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1484

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I don't mind the suggestion that clubs should have to give up something else with these FA plays. The AFL have a silly compensation approach that looks at the dollars not the players true ability and the compensation can be both excessive or insufficient.
        North landed pick 3 and perhaps they should have had to given something back.

        I'm not sure ladder positions should play into it.
        An incoming free agent should work the same as a father-son or NGA. Club should have to use a draft pick based on when another club bids. If Hawthorn are going to get Battle, then they should have to pay something. I don't see why St Kilda should receive anything as he has completed his contract with them.
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        • Boots
          Rookie List
          • Nov 2020
          • 431

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          For me, the more I mull over this, the problem isn't return for us, it's the fact we're likely making Geelong better and ourselves worse.

          Whatever else you say about Smith - and I do think we'll be better off without his obvious mental health issues - he was talent we scouted and drafted and developed to fill a specific need. We were clever and it paid off, and now we're not reaping the benefits of that. There is no possible compensation for that, because there are no available ready-to-go pacey outside mids/wingers available to us. Same as there was no reasonable compensation available for the Dunkley trade because there were no ready-to-go available defensive mids, but worse this time because we drafted Dunks as a forward.

          The issue is the team who needs him least is going to get him cheap. It's my hope that his downsides stay downsides for them, as cruel as that sounds for him (I wouldn't wish mental health struggles on anyone).

          Thank heavens for Ed Richards, is all I can say.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5535

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by Boots
            For me, the more I mull over this, the problem isn't return for us, it's the fact we're likely making Geelong better and ourselves worse.

            Whatever else you say about Smith - and I do think we'll be better off without his obvious mental health issues - he was talent we scouted and drafted and developed to fill a specific need. We were clever and it paid off, and now we're not reaping the benefits of that. There is no possible compensation for that, because there are no available ready-to-go pacey outside mids/wingers available to us. Same as there was no reasonable compensation available for the Dunkley trade because there were no ready-to-go available defensive mids, but worse this time because we drafted Dunks as a forward.

            The issue is the team who needs him least is going to get him cheap. It's my hope that his downsides stay downsides for them, as cruel as that sounds for him (I wouldn't wish mental health struggles on anyone).

            Thank heavens for Ed Richards, is all I can say.
            I hope Bailey gets a lot of fulfillment from his Cotton On 'job' and absolutely none from his football career.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 65835

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I'm not sure ladder positions should play into it.
              They do that to try and even out the competition
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              • kruder
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2011
                • 3754

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Amazing that Battle and Perryman could be worth more than Smith.

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9873

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by kruder
                  Amazing that Battle and Perryman could be worth more than Smith.
                  You know that is not true.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44089

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Given how far apart we are with Geelong at the moment I wonder if our fall back position might soften to this years pick and a F2?
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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10964

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      Given how far apart we are with Geelong at the moment I wonder if our fall back position might soften to this years pick and a F2?
                      I have long expected it to end up as something along those lines. Don't think we will get 2 firsts.

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                      • Topdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 7471

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        Given how far apart we are with Geelong at the moment I wonder if our fall back position might soften to this years pick and a F2?
                        Thats vomit inducing

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10056

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          I am once again asking us to blow this deal up on purpose.
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Given how far apart we are with Geelong at the moment I wonder if our fall back position might soften to this years pick and a F2?
                            I still think handing them an F2 is fair

                            Say Pick 21 & 20 - for - Smith & 36.

                            That’s a great deal for them. That’s my fall back.
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                            • chef
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 14537

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Annoying as **** how Geelong and Baz have played us with this deal. Only thing to be determined is how hard they screw us.

                              We should have been trying to push him out 12 months ago.
                              The curse is dead.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15175

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Originally posted by Happy Days
                                I am once again asking us to blow this deal up on purpose.
                                How do we do that?

                                If we do not make the trade Smith is still a 90% chance to get to Geelong and they keep their first round pick.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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