Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[1eyedog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes you need a 'quick fix' floating around and while he's not best 22 material he's proven he can fill a role as a depth player. Not a long term option but would still consider him a required player given our current plight.

I drew up a proposed 2012 team last night and struggled to fit him into it.

At best he is a required depth player.

[stefoid]

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Gilbs and Hargrave are contracted and I think we owe it to them to show what they can to fight their way back into the best 22.

This year, I think it depends more on who we think we can get into the club than who we want out of it. Like, how many players have we got our eyes on to draft onto the list or as rookies? Because in a thin draft, it may not be all that many.

This strikes me as a conservative list management year.

2012, however, with a good deep draft and at least one extra first round draft pick strikes me as the year to prune back harder and bring more fresh talent into the club. Plus the new coach might like to have a look at the list first.

So for mine:

OUT:
hall
huddo
hahn
ward
mulligan

UPGRADE:
Panos
Dalhaus

IN:
minimum three draft picks
two rookies

[Sockeye Salmon]

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Gilbs and Hargrave are contracted and I think we owe it to them to show what they can to fight their way back into the best 22.

This year, I think it depends more on who we think we can get into the club than who we want out of it. Like, how many players have we got our eyes on to draft onto the list or as rookies? Because in a thin draft, it may not be all that many.

This strikes me as a conservative list management year.

2012, however, with a good deep draft and at least one extra first round draft pick strikes me as the year to prune back harder and bring more fresh talent into the club. Plus the new coach might like to have a look at the list first.

So for mine:

OUT:
hall
huddo
hahn
ward
mulligan

UPGRADE:
Panos
Dalhaus

IN:
minimum three draft picks
two rookies

For 3 draft picks you're one delisting short.

I assume you meant to include Reid there somewhere?

[Hot_Doggies]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Gilbs and Hargrave are contracted and I think we owe it to them to show what they can to fight their way back into the best 22.

This year, I think it depends more on who we think we can get into the club than who we want out of it. Like, how many players have we got our eyes on to draft onto the list or as rookies? Because in a thin draft, it may not be all that many.

This strikes me as a conservative list management year.

2012, however, with a good deep draft and at least one extra first round draft pick strikes me as the year to prune back harder and bring more fresh talent into the club. Plus the new coach might like to have a look at the list first.

So for mine:

OUT:
hall
huddo
hahn
ward
mulligan

UPGRADE:
Panos
Dalhaus

IN:
minimum three draft picks
two rookies

Stack? Josh Hill? Addison???

[Missing Dog]

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Gilbs and Hargrave are contracted and I think we owe it to them to show what they can to fight their way back into the best 22.

Didn't we allow Gilbee to show he could fight his way back in our best 22 this year? From my recollection he was on the decline last year and we all put it down to a bad season and as a club we allowed him to play on this year on the basis he was not a guranteed starter and would have to earn his spot in the side. His form has been on the decline for two seasons now, his main asset which is his kicking isn't what it used to be and I struggle to find where he sits in our plans for the future. Despite a strong preseason he still wasn't able to consolidate his spot in our team and ended the year in our reserves, what I don't understand is why he would still have another year on his contract when his decline wasn't unexpected in fact this has been on the cards for the past 24 months.

[BulldogBelle]

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I did and still do. Hasn't shown much yet really. Best game was vs gc where he played on the first gamer who Sherman vilified.
He has made John Butcher the hotest trade property there is.

A spare parts man like Barlow isnt too bad to have around the club, and given the amount of injuries we had in 2011 we appreciated his services

The game vs Port showed he isnt a key defender, as he was being butchered (excuse the pun) by a 2nd game player

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

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Didn't we allow Gilbee to show he could fight his way back in our best 22 this year? From my recollection he was on the decline last year and we all put it down to a bad season and as a club we allowed him to play on this year on the basis he was not a guranteed starter and would have to earn his spot in the side. His form has been on the decline for two seasons now, his main asset which is his kicking isn't what it used to be and I struggle to find where he sits in our plans for the future. Despite a strong preseason he still wasn't able to consolidate his spot in our team and ended the year in our reserves, what I don't understand is why he would still have another year on his contract when his decline wasn't unexpected in fact this has been on the cards for the past 24 months.

really good points. could become a a killer kicking coach but.

[LostDoggy]

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A spare parts man like Barlow isnt too bad to have around the club, and given the amount of injuries we had in 2011 we appreciated his services

The game vs Port showed he isnt a key defender, as he was being butchered (excuse the pun) by a 2nd game player

Some can say Spare parts man, I say Jack of all trades, master of none. What's his position? We have better options in every area. Keep him on the rookie list.

[stefoid]

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For 3 draft picks you're one delisting short.

I assume you meant to include Reid there somewhere?

Oh right, hahn was a rookie.

Addison or Reid then.

So thats 3 draftees and 3 rookies.

The point Im making is dont approach list management arse backwards. The club will be looking at the likely number of players it thinks are worth bringing into the club, and then seeing who they need to boot to make way for them, rather than making a shitlist of every player who probably wont be at the club in 2 years time.

I dont see the point in paying gilbee out -- lindsay gilbee, man! -- unless there is someone we really want at the club and we need that spot on the list to get them.

I could be wrong, but I expect about 6-7 new players into the club this year and more like 9 or 10 next year.

[chef]

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Stack? Josh Hill? Addison???

I would hang onto them as they could become decent players under a different coach.

[LostDoggy]

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I would hang onto them as they could become decent players under a different coach.

Good luck with that.

[Mofra]

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Some can say Spare parts man, I say Jack of all trades, master of none. What's his position? We have better options in every area. Keep him on the rookie list.

He's basically Everitt, except an inch or two taller and with better endurance.

[Maddog37]

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He's basically Everitt, except an inch or two taller and with better endurance.

Except he tries all the time.

[Mofra]

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Except he tries all the time.

True - Barlow actually gets to the contest.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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True - Barlow actually gets to the contest.

exactly. Barlow is involved in a lot of plays. Whether people like him or not for his skills or abilities he gets involved. Something that cant be said for the likes of Grant and Hill.