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  • Sockeye Salmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6365

    #61
    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by Maddog37
    Except he tries all the time.
    But has about 1/10th the ability

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15326

      #62
      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
      But has about 1/10th the ability
      That is the issue, isn't it? In twenty years time Barlow will be content in knowing he gave it the best shot he could, whereas Everitt, Hill perhaps will wonder what if.....
      Granted Barlow may not be good enough to make it but he won't die wondering.
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • westdog54
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 6686

        #63
        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
        But has about 1/10th the ability
        Which is why I can't stand it when players like Hill and Everitt fail to perform to a consistent basis.

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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10145

          #64
          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Seriously, Barlow is an absolute spud. We don't have to upgrade him, his depth will still be provided on the rookie list. Lets leave him there.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5113

            #65
            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            Seriously, Barlow is an absolute spud. We don't have to upgrade him, his depth will still be provided on the rookie list. Lets leave him there.
            I agree. I believe that the only time you should promote someone off the rookie list is when:

            a) They are clearly in you best 25 the coming year (ie. Dahlhaus)

            or

            b) You have run out of years to keep them on the rookie list (max 3) and while they still do not fall in the best 25 category, they are better than the player you expect to get with the draft pick their spot is currently allocated to, and they have the potential to be in that 25 ("b" as an option should hardly ever be used). This player should be on a one year contract, so they are effectively a rookie on the senior list.

            Under this theory Mulligan and Hooper wouldn't have been promoted, but kept as rookies. If their form was good enough this year they would have been promoted, if not then we just don't retain them, which if they weren't signed up for 2012 would probably be what would happen anyway.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14332

              #66
              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              When do the clubs announce the delistings?
              Bring back the biff

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              • azabob
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 15326

                #67
                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by ledge
                When do the clubs announce the delistings?
                Some like to do it now- like gold coast have already started. If your club was smart you would wait till after the trade window as sometimes one mans trash is another treasure.
                More of an In Bruges guy?

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14332

                  #68
                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by azabob
                  Some like to do it now- like gold coast have already started. If your club was smart you would wait till after the trade window as sometimes one mans trash is another treasure.
                  Nathan Dj says hello.
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Nathan Dj says hello.
                    Did anyone hear the commentator on the radio broadcast of Willy's game say hw good DJ was at that an AfL club should have a look at him !

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14332

                      #70
                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by OldBulldog
                      Did anyone hear the commentator on the radio broadcast of Willy's game say hw good DJ was at that an AfL club should have a look at him !
                      Haha what a jerk or should I say what a Thomas.(as in John or Grant)
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        #71
                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        OUTS
                        Mulligan
                        Stack
                        Prato
                        Hahn
                        Hall
                        Hooper
                        Moles
                        Addison
                        Hargrave
                        Gilbee
                        Hudson
                        Ward

                        TRADES
                        J.Hill
                        Reid

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66781

                          #72
                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Asylum Ward
                          OUTS
                          Mulligan
                          Stack
                          Prato
                          Hahn
                          Hall
                          Hooper
                          Moles
                          Addison
                          Hargrave
                          Gilbee
                          Hudson
                          Ward

                          TRADES
                          J.Hill
                          Reid
                          Do we even get 12 picks?
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #73
                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Asylum Ward
                            OUTS
                            Mulligan
                            Stack
                            Prato
                            Hahn
                            Hall
                            Hooper
                            Moles
                            Addison
                            Hargrave
                            Gilbee
                            Hudson
                            Ward

                            TRADES
                            J.Hill
                            Reid
                            That's at least 3 players that are contracted. We aren't exactly rolling in it.

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                            • westdog54
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 6686

                              #74
                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by Asylum Ward
                              OUTS
                              Mulligan
                              Stack
                              Prato
                              Hahn
                              Hall
                              Hooper
                              Moles
                              Addison
                              Hargrave
                              Gilbee
                              Hudson
                              Ward

                              TRADES
                              J.Hill
                              Reid
                              We want to rebuild. Not Demolish.

                              We still need 38 to form a list.

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                              • LostDoggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8307

                                #75
                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by Swoop
                                Didn't we allow Gilbee to show he could fight his way back in our best 22 this year? From my recollection he was on the decline last year and we all put it down to a bad season and as a club we allowed him to play on this year on the basis he was not a guranteed starter and would have to earn his spot in the side. His form has been on the decline for two seasons now, his main asset which is his kicking isn't what it used to be and I struggle to find where he sits in our plans for the future. Despite a strong preseason he still wasn't able to consolidate his spot in our team and ended the year in our reserves, what I don't understand is why he would still have another year on his contract when his decline wasn't unexpected in fact this has been on the cards for the past 24 months.
                                I don't know why we didn't continue with Gilbee in the FP.
                                IIRC he was dropped 2 weeks after kicking a bag of goals...

                                Might be a spot to try him back in next year where his exceptional kicking might slot some handy goals?

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