Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Desipura]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I don't think we will be able to keep and maybe even want to keep either Minson or Roughead.
Number of clubs looking for experienced rucks.

If we got a Godfather deal for Minson that would be the only time I would consider trading him, same for Roughead (I think he has more updside though)

[Missing Dog]

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Considering that he is still young, can we hope for some improvement in the areas you mentioned above?

Then, imagine Brian getting injured. What might our contingency plan be?
( considering Williams is out and Morris has a question mark hanging over his leg ). How are we going to match up against sides with two tall forwards?

Well we can't do anything about his pace. It's possible he could improve, but I don't see a long term future for him. Sorry, but key defenders aren't that hard to find of Markovic's ability IMO.

If Markovic gets nabbed by someone else, we could always rookie another mature ager as insurance. We would still have Austin on the main list as well as Talia and Roberts.

[LostDoggy]

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If we got a Godfather deal for Minson that would be the only time I would consider trading him, same for Roughead (I think he has more updside though)

Minson is a free agent at the end of year. We have to match opposition offers to keep him.

What I've seen of Roughead isnt that encouraging. Debatble whether Minson was better at the same age.

[Cyberdoggie]

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Minson is a free agent at the end of year. We have to match opposition offers to keep him.

What I've seen of Roughead isnt that encouraging. Debatble whether Minson was better at the same age.

I think Roughead has shown glimpses of being very good in the middle, and can occasionally take a nice grab, he just has the absolute yips when kicking for goal, needs to get stronger and fitter.

[Mofra]

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Not going to disagree, The Eagle and Johnno's last season were non-events. In their defence, we were close in 2009. We added Hall in 2010, won the NAB Cup and the decision to go with an experienced squad looked a good decision. I doubt any other team would have cut deeply in the middle of a premiership window.

Johnno deserved to go around again - he finished 4th in our B&F. Nobody would have predicted an errant golf cart would nab him in the pre-season.

[Mantis]

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Johnno deserved to go around again - he finished 4th in our B&F. Nobody would have predicted an errant golf cart would nab him in the pre-season.

He was also close to our best player in the '09 PF.

[LostDoggy]

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He was also close to our best player in the '09 PF.

Yep. No problem keeping absolute champions one year too long (I mean, it was Johnno). My problem is keeping role players too long. In other words, Morris and Murph: happy to go a year too long. Eagleton and Gilbee: not so much. Hooper and Mulligan: simply ridiculous.

[Rocco Jones]

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Yep. No problem keeping absolute champions one year too long (I mean, it was Johnno). My problem is keeping role players too long. In other words, Morris and Murph: happy to go a year too long. Eagleton and Gilbee: not so much. Hooper and Mulligan: simply ridiculous.

I wouldn't mind keeping Gilbee a year too long due to what he has done for the club. The issue is we are going to end up keeping for two years too long after last year.

I would always give the benefit of the doubt to the life member, loyal servant types with one-year deals. The problem is with multi-year contracts. We would/should have delisted Gilbee last year if he didn't have another year to run on his contract, same with Gia.

[HOSE B ROMERO]

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Providing their contracts are up (by the way, how do you guys know whose contracts are up?), the 5 i would delist would be: Gilbee, Panos, Moles, Hooper and Mulligan. Shaggy may retire, i think Gia should (but won't). Would trade Higgins or Sherman and maybe Grant. Of the rookies would promote either Austin or Campbell...

[Ghost Dog]

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Well we can't do anything about his pace. It's possible he could improve, but I don't see a long term future for him. Sorry, but key defenders aren't that hard to find of Markovic's ability IMO.

If Markovic gets nabbed by someone else, we could always rookie another mature ager as insurance. We would still have Austin on the main list as well as Talia and Roberts.

Austin seems to be traveling quite well in the eyes of posters doesn't he? More so than Marko it seems. Fair enough. Although I think good key defenders are a bit harder to find than you think.

[LostDoggy]

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For sure. It looks to be a midfielders draft.

I'm looking very closely at Josh Simpson, Rory Atkins and Troy Menzel at the champs. McCartney would love Atkins.

Well at least there is hope on the horizon. If we take more than 1 tall this draft (unless we get two ridiculous, would be stupid to pass up opportunities) I shall spew. Have to get 3-4 good run/carry midfielders.

We can always use a good Atkins. I miss the old one!

[Remi Moses]

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Well at least there is hope on the horizon. If we take more than 1 tall this draft (unless we get two ridiculous, would be stupid to pass up opportunities) I shall spew. Have to get 3-4 good run/carry midfielders.

We can always use a good Atkins. I miss the old one!

Don't miss the Atkins toe poke because he wouldn't put his body on the line.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Considering that he is still young, can we hope for some improvement in the areas you mentioned above?

Then, imagine Brian getting injured. What might our contingency plan be?
( considering Williams is out and Morris has a question mark hanging over his leg ). How are we going to match up against sides with two tall forwards?

Markovic isn't young. He's 26 years old.

I agree with bulldogsman; we would be able to find (younger) KD's equal or better to Markovic's ability. I think Austin is miles ahead of him, and Austin is more of a 'third' tall.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Markovic isn't young. He's 26 years old.

I agree with bulldogsman; we would be able to find (younger) KD's equal or better to Markovic's ability. I think Austin is miles ahead of him, and Austin is more of a 'third' tall.

People should not be comparing Austin with Markovic.

While Austin has done really well, he has definitely been out muscled by the big forwards.
I see Austin as more like Morris and Hargrave, but not really capable of relieving Lake.

Markovic has the strength to match the monster forwards. I see both worth a spot on the list.

[GVGjr]

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People should not be comparing Austin with Markovic.

While Austin has done really well, he has definitely been out muscled by the big forwards.
I see Austin as more like Morris and Hargrave, but not really capable of relieving Lake.

Markovic has the strength to match the monster forwards. I see both worth a spot on the list.

Agreed. Both are worth a spot on our list.