Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Ghost Dog]

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Can anyone see any information here that is not correct?

Secondly, are there any father / son pics I've forgotten about for the next draft?

Boyd, Shaggy and Dale Morris , Cross, and Gia will be on the veteran's list next year, correct?

The 5 I nominate to delist at this point in time are: Gilbee, Brodie Moles, Pat Vezpremi, Hooper and Mulligan. Hargrave may retire owing to his ankle or Gia may retire. What is Tom William's contract status? Not sure his body is up to AFL and has missed so much footy. Hope he manages to come back, but have my doubts. "The most operated player in the comp" says Matty Boyd.

Rookie promotion: Austin / Campbell but watching Alex Greenwood closely.

[Bornadog]

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He's saying Skinner could turn it around soon and have a strong latter half of the season. I tend to agree that we shouldn't mark anyone for death this early in the season, but sadly by weight of numbers, we are going to lose some likeable faces.

I hope Skinner does turn it around, but where it stands right now, I think he should be playing Willi reserves.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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That's not what the Skinner argument is about.
Delisting 4 blokes when we may promote 2 or 3 rookies isn't enough.
We have 2 extra draft picks as well.

Need to cut a lot deeper than 4.

I know.

[Remi Moses]

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Just don't think there's enough urgency in Zeph's game to often.
Yeah occasionally he's flat out, but to often he's third up trying for a big mark.
Big second half for Zeph is required.
That's what was good about the Jones game , he attacked every contest urgently

[Bulldog4life]

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He's saying Skinner could turn it around soon and have a strong latter half of the season. I tend to agree that we shouldn't mark anyone for death this early in the season, but sadly by weight of numbers, we are going to lose some likeable faces.

I agree with this. Any player can turn it around in the second half of the year. This thread will make more sense much later in the season.

[LostDoggy]

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I know.

Tell us something we don't know then instead of pointing out the obvious.

[Rocco Jones]

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Ghost Dog seems to have his bone and won't go close to letting it go. Zeph ahead of Tom Williams (he is contracted)? I don't care if Tom's arm falls off (a distinct possibility), he would still be ahead of Zeph.

We have to delist/retire 7 if we are going to have our 5 early picks + upgrade Campbell and Austin.

Just about impossible IMO to retain Campell and Austin on rookie list. Forget about it as being on the 'rookie list', it's like us offering them a 1 year contract for 60-70k with the condition that they are only even a chance to play if a senior player goes down for 8+ weeks.

Instead of saying he should go, he should stay.. we need to crunch the numbers.

I have no interest whatsoever in Moles, Mulligan, Gilbee and Hooper. They are gone.

Panos and Skinner I would delist and then rookie.

That leaves one more. Shaggy's choice to retire or go one more year. Don't want to delist anyone else. It's Vez's spot to lose.

[LostDoggy]

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What's the story with vets/rookies allowed? Numbers?

[Rocco Jones]

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What's the story with vets/rookies allowed? Numbers?

From what I understand it....

- 38 senior list

- 2 on vets list (can have more with salary deducted but any more than 2 and they count as part of your senior list of 38)

- 6 rookies but they can take vets list spots if free i.e 1 vet list = 7 rookies max. Also mean you can start season with 1 or 2 if you only have 0 or 1 vets.

[Ghost Dog]

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Ghost Dog seems to have his bone and won't go close to letting it go. Zeph ahead of Tom Williams (he is contracted)? I don't care if Tom's arm falls off (a distinct possibility), he would still be ahead of Zeph.

We have to delist/retire 7 if we are going to have our 5 early picks + upgrade Campbell and Austin.

Just about impossible IMO to retain Campell and Austin on rookie list. Forget about it as being on the 'rookie list', it's like us offering them a 1 year contract for 60-70k with the condition that they are only even a chance to play if a senior player goes down for 8+ weeks.

Instead of saying he should go, he should stay.. we need to crunch the numbers.

I have no interest whatsoever in Moles, Mulligan, Gilbee and Hooper. They are gone.

Panos and Skinner I would delist and then rookie.

That leaves one more. Shaggy's choice to retire or go one more year. Don't want to delist anyone else. It's Vez's spot to lose.

Or both arms! Nah. Come on Tommy!!! Ya Ol' Queensland Bullock.
He's got a new girl so that might help the healing process.
Have to admit, when he does come back your heart is going to be in your mouth every time he goes for a sliding mark.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Tell us something we don't know then instead of pointing out the obvious.

Chops, this has been a long discussion. I said I agreed with Ghost Dog for all the reasons he had already pointed out. I find you to be a pretty aggressive poster at times and I often just dip out because I simply can't be bothered.

[Missing Dog]

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I have no interest whatsoever in Moles, Mulligan, Gilbee and Hooper. They are gone.

Panos and Skinner I would delist and then rookie.

That leaves one more. Shaggy's choice to retire or go one more year. Don't want to delist anyone else. It's Vez's spot to lose.

Agree with this and I'd delist Markovic then rookie him as I've already mentioned.

[azabob]

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I have no interest whatsoever in Moles, Mulligan, Gilbee and Hooper. They are gone.

Panos and Skinner I would delist and then rookie.

That leaves one more. Shaggy's choice to retire or go one more year. Don't want to delist anyone else. It's Vez's spot to lose.

RJ, we may give up players / picks to get involved in the 17 year old mini draft.

I like what Vez offers. Where is DJ in all of this? Personally I think DJ would be stiff to be axed but I think Vez has more ability and has a role to play in our team, where as DJ is surplus.

[Ghost Dog]

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Agree with this and I'd delist Markovic then rookie him as I've already mentioned.

And watch him get poached? Bmac is a fan of Marko's so not sure if that is likely.

[Missing Dog]

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And watch him get poached by another club?

I've made my point pretty clear on that...