Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[GVGjr]

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Brett Thornton to the Bulldogs rumors still floating around.

Would appear to be an unlikely one given he will turn 29 in November. Is an unrestricted free agent though, so would add size (192cm) and experience (188 games) and not cost us anything other than a probably very modest salary. Can play at both ends, so is flexible. Not going to change our fortunes either way though, is he?

I think we already have a better option in Mark Austin that we could upgrade.
I don't think Thornton gives us much.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Brett Thornton to the Bulldogs rumors still floating around.

Would appear to be an unlikely one given he will turn 29 in November. Is an unrestricted free agent though, so would add size (192cm) and experience (188 games) and not cost us anything other than a probably very modest salary. Can play at both ends, so is flexible. Not going to change our fortunes either way though, is he?

Oh LongWait. I was having a good weekend. Why did you have to ruin it.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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reports we are really considering trading picks 5 and 6 to GWS for pick 9 and the first selection in the mini-draft. Pick 9 on-traded from Richmond for Dom Tyson

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/trade-and-draft/richmonds-desire-to-snare-young-gws-giants-midfielder-dom-tyson-could-be-aided-by-western-bulldogs/story-fna8vsun-1226485702156

[G-Mo77]

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Well hopefully it is just a bullshit rumor. Have a look on the other footy websites though and you will see it is being discussed.

Yeah I've heard it as well. Just trying to block it out. Rumors went round a couple of years ago we were after him and I dreaded this moment when I saw the Free Agent list. At least if Sherman stays there will be a player I can't stand even more. I've got his VFL prelim final against Willy 2 years ago etched into my memory when he called out people in the crowd at half time behind about 10 teammates pretending to be restrained. Wanker!

[LostDoggy]

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reports we are really considering trading picks 5 and 6 to GWS for pick 9 and the first selection in the mini-draft. Pick 9 on-traded from Richmond for Dom Tyson

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/trad...-1226485702156

Just read that too. God I hope we know what we're doing and don't muck this up

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Just read that too. God I hope we know what we're doing and don't muck this up

yeah really dont like the idea of giving up such high picks but apparently its a play to get Jack Martin. I'd just hate to think after a few years Martin decides he wants to head back home to WA like so many WA players do.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Yeah I've heard it as well. Just trying to block it out. Rumors went round a couple of years ago we were after him and I dreaded this moment when I saw the Free Agent list. At least if Sherman stays there will be a player I can't stand even more. I've got his VFL prelim final against Willy 2 years ago etched into my memory when he called out people in the crowd at half time behind about 10 teammates pretending to be restrained. Wanker!

i will lose all faith in Macca if this is indeed true

[LostDoggy]

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/hawthorn-to-target-bulldogs-defender-brian-lake/story-fnca0u4y-1226484953560

Hawthorn apparently after Brian, hope this is bs.

[gohardorgohome]

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Brian Lake is the best full back we have had in my time...... That said I'm inclined to seek their first round draft pick........ I cant see them giving that so I would think they will need to trade for a mid round two pick.

This will free up more salary to trade in a decent 23-25 year old.

IMO one of the real strengths of good list management is knowing when to trade out an older player for over the odds.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'd only trade Lake if we saw ourselves as clearly winning from the trade.

First round pick + a good player.

[KT31]

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I'd only trade Lake if we saw ourselves as clearly winning from the trade.

First round pick + a good player.

Would consider a straight swap for Buddy.

[LostDoggy]

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I'd only trade Lake if we saw ourselves as clearly winning from the trade.

First round pick + a good player.

Was that a joke?

If Lake wants to go, if we are happy for him to go and if Hawks want and can afford him (a few big ifs there) then Hawks first and second round picks for our second pick and Lake seems about what could be expected.

So in effect (roughly)

Dogs get - Pick 20, 39

Hawks get - Lake, Pick 26

We'd like more but its hard to see it happening. Possibly a good kicking Hawks fringe player (Savage? instead of the second rounder?)

[LostDoggy]

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Brian Lake is the best full back we have had in my time...... That said I'm inclined to seek their first round draft pick........ I cant see them giving that so I would think they will need to trade for a mid round two pick.

This will free up more salary to trade in a decent 23-25 year old.

IMO one of the real strengths of good list management is knowing when to trade out an older player for over the odds.

Not so sure the fans will take kindly to 100point floggings every week because the club has traded an AA full back!

[Remi Moses]

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Probably have to get a player as well.
Pretty fair deal I'd say, and with Hawthorn's window well open they'd look at it.

[gohardorgohome]

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Not so sure the fans will take kindly to 100point floggings every week because the club has traded an AA full back!

The next two years are development years anyway..... I think it is fair to say that we wont make top two on the ladder regardless if Brian Lake stays with us or not......

The questions list managers need to include

"Can a player develop into a premiership player? If not get what you can for the player"
"Can we recieve over this odds for a player?"
"Can we pay under the odds for a potential premiership player?"

Short term thrashings dont mean a thing if the foundations for long term success are being established.