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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43930

    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

    Does anyone have some outside of the box type selections we might be interested in with later selections?
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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11064

      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

      Who do you hope we draft with our first couple of picks GVG?
      W00F!

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      • boydogs
        WOOF Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 5842

        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

        Good too see some focus on Gallucci

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        Gallucci looks zippy and productive but at only 183cms I'm not sure he's a great fit for us, with a few smaller guys already in our side
        183cm's is 6 foot, not what I would call small. He's 1cm taller than Libba. He also broke the standing leap record at the combine

        If a midfielder only being 183cm is the only reason not to pick him, I would say he's a pretty good choice
        If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

        Formerly gogriff

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        • Throughandthrough
          Coaching Staff
          • Nov 2007
          • 3203

          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Does anyone have some outside of the box type selections we might be interested in with later selections?
          I haven't seen Jason McCartney at one Glenelg game this year, some I'm out!

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 43930

            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
            Who do you hope we draft with our first couple of picks GVG?
            I like Powell-Pepper but I don't think we will select him so Gallucci, Berry, Hayward and Venables would be good additions if available.
            Marshall is a long term prospect and like a few have mentioned he perhaps carries a bigger risk than most but sometimes you have to back in your ability to develop players. With Cloke around for a couple of years it's not like we would need to rush him.

            For the 2nd pick there are a number of players I think would be great additions. Cumming, Macreadie, Ridley, Cedric Cox and Brennan Cox (no relation) could balance things out with our 1st pick.

            Despite the fact that I think 'best available' with early picks is the right way to go I hope we get players with a point of difference to players we already have on the list. If it's a midfielder or two with the early selections then I hope they are either athletic, fast or a good user of the footy which I think would compliment our already seriously good midfield.

            The most interesting selections will be the two later ones and I suspect there might be a surprise with the last pick.
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            • chef
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 14490

              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

              After watching his interview on the news I'd be pretty happy to grab Cedric Cox. Seems like a great kid.

              Not that ive seen any of these kids play.
              The curse is dead.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27638

                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                I like Powell-Pepper but I don't think we will select him so Gallucci, Berry, Hayward and Venables would be good additions if available.
                Marshall is a long term prospect and like a few have mentioned he perhaps carries a bigger risk than most but sometimes you have to back in your ability to develop players. With Cloke around for a couple of years it's not like we would need to rush him.

                For the 2nd pick there are a number of players I think would be great additions. Cumming, Ridley, Macreadie, Cedric Cox and Brennan Cox (no relation) could balance things out with our 1st pick.

                Despite the fact that I think 'best available' with early picks is the right way to go I hope we get players with a point of difference to players we already have on the list. If it's a midfielder or two with the early selections then I hope they are either athletic, fast or a good user of the footy which I think would compliment our already seriously good midfield.

                The most interesting selections will be the two later ones and I suspect there might be a surprise with the last pick.

                So we will have plenty of options with our first two picks then? Sounds like there will be some quality kids who will address needs in our squad. Dalrymple will pick the right players and the more he has to choose from the better.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • The Doctor
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3701

                  Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  Todd Marshall looks to have a lot of potential but as some on here have pointed out he might be a risky selection. He could he be that Justin Westhoff type that develops into a versatile forward or could he be more like a Cameron Wright who struggled. The truth is he could be somewhere in between but if we were to select him he would have to be regarded as a long term investment.
                  Marshall is a far superior footballer at this age than Wight who was probably a superstar in Clayton's Bizarro world. God I hated that selection.

                  I'd rather go Marshall than Cox at our first but think we should keep an open mind. Who knows who might slip through?

                  I'm more nervous about Cox. Lovely skills but not from the elite pathway and I don't like us being speculated with players who haven't proven themselves consistently against their peers at the highest level. He is also a year older than this year's group and had a shocker in the All Stars game. Thats a massive concern for me.

                  The most intriguing player in this draft for me is Harrison Macreadie. Touted as a potential top 5 selection last year and now? Hardly a word spoken about him and certainly very little speculation if any about him being a top 30 chance. So What's happened. The sceptic in me thinks GWS have kept him under wraps knowing they have all these hotshot midfielders available to them this year and need draft points. Why move him to Kings School? thats a school devoted to rugby union for Tony Abbott type toffs in Parramatta, which is in the middle of rugby league heartland. Go figure.

                  Last year he was considered a KP defender at 196cm and now a flanker, or potential midfielder? Would Dalrymple see another Bont type selection here, but a bigger version???? Interesting.
                  Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 43930

                    Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                    Originally posted by The Doctor

                    I'm more nervous about Cox. Lovely skills but not from the elite pathway and I don't like us being speculated with players who haven't proven themselves consistently against their peers at the highest level. He is also a year older than this year's group and had a shocker in the All Stars game. Thats a massive concern for me.
                    I don't see that one game as a massive concern at all and the fact that he is a year older is just because he hasn't followed the traditional pathway. I see him more of a pick 26 option than 18 anyway. I watched him a few times this year, he's not a huge possession winner but I think he will catch-up quickly.

                    Originally posted by The Doctor
                    The most intriguing player in this draft for me is Harrison Macreadie. Touted as a potential top 5 selection last year and now? Hardly a word spoken about him and certainly very little speculation if any about him being a top 30 chance. So What's happened. The sceptic in me thinks GWS have kept him under wraps knowing they have all these hotshot midfielders available to them this year and need draft points. Why move him to Kings School? thats a school devoted to rugby union for Tony Abbott type toffs in Parramatta, which is in the middle of rugby league heartland. Go figure.

                    Last year he was considered a KP defender at 196cm and now a flanker, or potential midfielder? Would Dalrymple see another Bont type selection here, but a bigger version???? Interesting.
                    I suspect a bid at 26 might be matched but given the lack of genuine KP players he should be someone we consider.
                    You're right that he is now being touted as a flanker or even a midfielder but I think he's a key defender. Perhaps GWS have tried to play everyone for silly buggers. Good luck to them for trying, more fool to those who fall for it.
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                    • The Doctor
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 3701

                      Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I don't see that one game as a massive concern at all and the fact that he is a year older is just because he hasn't followed the traditional pathway. I see him more of a pick 26 option than 18 anyway. I watched him a few times this year, he's not a huge possession winner but I think he will catch-up quickly.
                      That one game was against the best of his peers and he had a bad game no matter which way you look at it. This was a match where all players were on show in front of all recruiters. he had less than 10 possies didn't he? As I said nice skills but!

                      i'm more for players who are good players over those who might be in the first few rounds of the draft.
                      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43930

                        Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by The Doctor
                        That one game was against the best of his peers and he had a bad game no matter which way you look at it. This was a match where all players were on show in front of all recruiters. he had less than 10 possies didn't he? As I said nice skills but!

                        i'm more for players who are good players over those who might be in the first few rounds of the draft.
                        I get what you are saying but I don't think I can be as definitive to the negative based just on one game unless it really was that bad. Plenty of players have a quiet game or even poor ones here and there.
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                        • The Doctor
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 3701

                          Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                          Earlier in the year Emma Quayle had Macreadie as the GWS no 1 academy prospect,



                          Callum Twomey also thinks so




                          now he's gone from All Australian & no 1 Academy prospect to nobody. Something doesn't smell right here.
                          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by The Doctor
                            Earlier in the year Emma Quayle had Macreadie as the GWS no 1 academy prospect,



                            He's gone from All Australian to nobody. Something doesn't smell right here.
                            GWS like to hide players...
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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3701

                              Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              GWS like to hide players...
                              Why wouldn't you if you know you can get away with it. If GWS have a weakness on their list it is in the tall defenders dept.
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 43930

                                Re: 2016 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by The Doctor
                                Earlier in the year Emma Quayle had Macreadie as the GWS no 1 academy prospect,



                                Callum Twomey also thinks so




                                now he's gone from All Australian & no 1 Academy prospect to nobody. Something doesn't smell right here.
                                You can also add that he didn't really test at the combine. Perhaps he was carrying an injury but I think it shows teams are sufficiently interested in Macreadie and if GWS have gone to some lengths to hide him away then they will most likely match any bid for him even going into deficit next year if they have to.

                                Has a decision been made about if they are going to lose some draft currency as part of the Whitfield penalties? If they lose picks 15 and 37 as was being touted it will certainly show the players they are committed to and how badly they want Macreadie.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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