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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45524

    #166
    Re: 2017 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    Most phantom drafters with a decent record all have him going before 16 by my memory. So if we want him, it's probably at 9. With the likes of O'Brien likely there at 16, they're two pretty hands young sorts to add to Trengove, Schache & Crozier.
    BT, would you pull the trigger on him at pick 9?
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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7483

      #167
      Re: 2017 Draft Watch

      Seems the sort of player that Dal would pick up

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        #168
        Re: 2017 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        BT, would you pull the trigger on him at pick 9?
        It's a hard call, this year I'm happy I'm not Dal. Bonar has injury issues, Fogarty has injury issues. Neither get to 16 I'd bet. Then Coffield seems to get mentioned by a few. Again not to 16.

        You can make solid arguments for a few players. I'm not sure how Dal would rate them in 'best available' though.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45524

          #169
          Re: 2017 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          It's a hard call, this year I'm happy I'm not Dal. Bonar has injury issues, Fogarty has injury issues. Neither get to 16 I'd bet. Then Coffield seems to get mentioned by a few. Again not to 16.

          You can make solid arguments for a few players. I'm not sure how Dal would rate them in 'best available' though.
          OK the jury is still out for you.

          Out of those 3 I'd go with Fogarty if he was still available. Coffield would be next.

          This is my top 20, I don't for a minute think it's the way it will actually fall but I think it highlights we could do well with our two selections.

          1) Luke Davies-Uniacke
          2) Paddy Dow
          3) Cameron Rayner
          4) Jaiden Stephenson
          5) Adam Cerra
          6) Darcy Fogarty
          7) Jarrod Brander
          8) Andrew Brayshaw
          9) Nicholas Coffield
          10) Charlie Constable
          11) Aiden Bonar
          12) Hunter Clark
          13) Aaron Naughton
          14) Patrick Naish
          15) Lochie O'Brien
          16) Ed Richards
          17) Jack Higgins
          18) Oscar Allen
          19) Sam Hayes
          20) Noah Balta
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          • kruder
            Coaching Staff
            • May 2011
            • 3912

            #170
            Re: 2017 Draft Watch

            Moving pics from the second round to one in the first do people think that Dally has his eye on one particular player at 16? Or is it pointing towards a lack of depth past the first round?

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45524

              #171
              Re: 2017 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by kruder
              Moving pics from the second round to one in the first do people think that Dally has his eye on one particular player at 16? Or is it pointing towards a lack of depth past the first round?
              I think it was a twofold strategy that we would 1) go into the draft with minimal picks so we might be in the strongest position and 2) we haven't had early picks for a couple of years and looked to address that.

              The depth of the draft is pretty good in my opinion.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67687

                #172
                Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                Cameron Rayner, Luke Davies-Uniacke or Paddy Dow could go No.1 in national draft

                CARLTON could secure No.1 draft pick fancy Cameron Rayner next month as Brisbane Lions and Fremantle consider drafting Vic Country midfielders with the first two selections.

                Recruiters say Rayner, 18, has the “Dustin Martin blueprint”, although the explosive Western Jet believes he plays more like Melbourne bull Christian Petracca.

                Clubs are finding it difficult to separate Rayner, Luke Davies-Uniacke and Paddy Dow as this year’s cream.

                Davies-Uniacke — nicknamed LDU — and Dow are considered slimmer flight risks for the Lions and Dockers, who lost homesick youngsters Josh Schache and Lachie Weller this month.

                Davies-Uniacke’s mother owns a house in Brisbane, where she lived for two years, and the keen surfer from Rye would also enjoy the waves at Perth’s beaches.

                The question mark on him is his endurance. But he would be a dream fit for the Blues as they chase goalkicking power in their engine room after Bryce Gibbs’ exit.

                Rayner won five flags and six best-and-fairests at Hillside and was nicknamed “Hollywood” by a junior coach for his goalkicking flair.

                North Melbourne holds the No.4 selection. It is likely to consider Jaidyn Stephenson and Adam Cerra.
                Midfielder Andrew Brayshaw is firming as a top-10 *!selection. Western Bulldogs would be pleased to land the brother of Melbourne’s Angus at No.9.

                Three clubs have two top-10 picks — the Dockers (Nos.2 and 5), the Blues (Nos.3 and 10) and St Kilda (Nos.7 and 8).
                For the first time Greater Western Sydney does not have a top-10 selection after activating 19 in the past five drafts.

                Luke Davies-Uniacke could also be the first selection.
                The Dockers are expected to grab the best tall to go with one of Davies-Uniacke, Dow or Rayner.

                They have previously been linked to Sam Hayes but clubs believe Peel Thunder’s Aaron Naughton is more likely.

                Taking Naughton would gazump Collingwood’s interest in the 194cm intercepting defender. The Magpies hold the No.6 pick, their only selection in the first two rounds.

                Aidan Bonar could leap into the top 15, but is laced with risk.

                The powerful Dandenong Stingray recovered from his second knee reconstruction late in the season.

                THE RACE TO GO NO.1

                CAMERON RAYNER

                Disposals 18.5
                Clearances 3.8
                Contested possessions 11.5
                Score involvements 7.5
                Goals 3.0
                SuperCoach 120 pts

                LUKE DAVIES-UNIACKE
                Disposals 21.8
                Metres gained 349m
                Clearances 3
                Score involvements 3.5
                Goals 0.8
                SuperCoach 82pts

                PADDY DOW
                Disposals 18.5
                Contested possessions 11.8
                Metres gained 325m
                Clearances 5.3
                Score involvements 5.5
                SuperCoach pts 99

                *Averages from this year’s national carnival. Source Champion Data

                DRAFT ORDER

                1 Brisbane Lions
                2 Fremantle
                3 Carlton
                4 North Melbourne
                5 Fremantle
                6 Collingwood
                7 St Kilda
                8 St Kilda
                9 Western Bulldogs
                10 Carlton
                11 GWS
                12 Adelaide
                13 West Coast
                14 Sydney
                15 Brisbane Lions
                16 Western Bulldogs
                17 Richmond
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • choconmientay
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1312

                  #173
                  Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                  Knightmare's AFL list needs: Who should your club draft?

                  Western Bulldogs
                  List needs
                  1. Midfielders
                  2. General defenders
                  3. Crumbing forward
                  Draft picks: 9, 16, 82, 101
                  Who should they draft? With pick nine, Nick Coffield if available could fill either the club's midfield or defence needs depending on where the club feels he is most likely to play his best football. Charlie Constable around No. 16 is another who as either a midfield or general defence possesses scope to develop while being one of the more damaging ball users in the draft. With pick 82, Adam Sambono is a possible crumbing solution as a quick forward who does freakish things around goal.
                  It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    #174
                    Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                    Just watched some Sambono highlights. Has a bit of X factor, despite being about 55kg.

                    From memory a few have mentioned him already as a late pick. But if we're committed to Smith, we don't have a late pick.
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                    • Bulldog4life
                      WOOF Member
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 9607

                      #175
                      Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      Just watched some Sambono highlights. Has a bit of X factor, despite being about 55kg.

                      From memory a few have mentioned him already as a late pick. But if we're committed to Smith, we don't have a late pick.
                      With Clokey going doesn't that give us another pick. I might be wrong here.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #176
                        Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        With Clokey going doesn't that give us another pick. I might be wrong here.
                        We gave it to Honeychurch.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 45524

                          #177
                          Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by choconmientay
                          Knightmare's AFL list needs: Who should your club draft?

                          Western Bulldogs
                          List needs
                          1. Midfielders
                          2. General defenders
                          3. Crumbing forward
                          Draft picks: 9, 16, 82, 101
                          Who should they draft? With pick nine, Nick Coffield if available could fill either the club's midfield or defence needs depending on where the club feels he is most likely to play his best football. Charlie Constable around No. 16 is another who as either a midfield or general defence possesses scope to develop while being one of the more damaging ball users in the draft. With pick 82, Adam Sambono is a possible crumbing solution as a quick forward who does freakish things around goal.
                          I'd be more than happy with those additions. I think Brayshaw would be a great fit for us and I think Constable would also settle in well as a big midfielder
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                          • choconmientay
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1312

                            #178
                            Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Just watched some Sambono highlights. Has a bit of X factor, despite being about 55kg.

                            From memory a few have mentioned him already as a late pick. But if we're committed to Smith, we don't have a late pick.
                            Can we keep Smith on the rookie list and have a live pick instead with pick 82?
                            It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                            • choconmientay
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1312

                              #179
                              Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              I'd be more than happy with those additions. I think Brayshaw would be a great fit for us and I think Constable would also settle in well as a big midfielder
                              So you are bullish about us having 2 excellent additions in this year draft? Looking back at the trade period, we could have lost pick 16 to the Lions for Schache and with that a young promising player on our list.
                              It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #180
                                Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by choconmientay
                                Can we keep Smith on the rookie list and have a live pick instead with pick 82?
                                No, but we could attempt to.

                                We would be required to delist Smith in accordance with rookie list rules. Then commit to him, probably using RD Pick 9. Ask him not to explore other options, except nominating for the RD. Then in most likelihood picking him up with Pick 9. In this circumstance, Smith could be on the rookie list next year and Pick 82 is live again.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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