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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #286
    Re: 2017 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    It wouldn't scare me off selecting him
    His manager being Robbie Dezario/Paul Connors (Stringer's managers) does a little.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • The Adelaide Connection
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2009
      • 2844

      #287
      Re: 2017 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by choconmientay
      AFL DRAFT CENTRAL
      AFL Draft whispers – November 2017, November 12, 2017 by Staff Writers

      Every other teams ... here

      Few new names linked to us?! ...

      WESTERN BULLDOGS

      The Western Bulldogs are a club who have Nathan Murphy right in their eyeline. With Pick 9 and 16 – they will get a good crack at two players. Ed Richards has some speed and a nice left foot kick and they could grab him at Pick 16. They’ve also been linked with Gippsland Power duo Matthew McGannon and Callum Porter as possible rookie picks. Lachlan Fogarty is a likely name at Pick 16 too. Whispers about the Bulldogs bidding on Richmond father-son Patrick Naish appear to be dying.



      As for who has an invite to the draft? Our sources suggest there are 19 players that will be attending in Sydney at this stage.

      Oscar Allen
      Aiden Bonar
      Jarrod Brander
      Andrew Brayshaw
      Adam Cerra
      Hunter Clark
      Nicholas Coffield
      Luke Davies-Uniacke
      Paddy Dow
      Darcy Fogarty
      Lachlan Fogarty
      Jack Higgins
      Nathan Murphy
      Patrick Naish
      Aaron Naughton
      Cameron Rayner
      Ed Richards
      Nicholas Shipley
      Jaidyn Stephenson
      From what I have read/watched it is exciting that we will get two of these on our list. If we could finish it off with one of Dom Barry, Ethan Penrith, Jackson Edwards, Liam Ryan, etc. at 79 I would be doing backflips.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #288
        Re: 2017 Draft Watch

        Reading through the various scenarios and phantoms, my dream combination now is Stephensonv and Bailey. Stephenson is starting to look the potential slider from the top 6-7 who would be the ideal addition to our list whilst Zac Bailey just screams the Dal bolter to me. Depending on who's left, I wouldn't be shocked if we took him at 9.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45539

          #289
          Re: 2017 Draft Watch

          The AFL.com.au did their mock draft with Cal Twomey and Mick Ablett rotating selections right up to pick 30.

          Brayshaw went at pick 4, Richards at 11, Murphy at 15, Constable at pick 20 were some of the surprises.

          We got Coffield at pick 9 and after bidding on Naish we then got L.Fogarty at pick 17. Both boys are Doggies supporters.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45539

            #290
            Re: 2017 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
            Reading through the various scenarios and phantoms, my dream combination now is Stephensonv and Bailey. Stephenson is starting to look the potential slider from the top 6-7 who would be the ideal addition to our list whilst Zac Bailey just screams the Dal bolter to me. Depending on who's left, I wouldn't be shocked if we took him at 9.
            How could we pass on Stephenson at pick 9 if he was somehow still available?
            Bailey would be a big call but if you rate him then why not.
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • kruder
              Coaching Staff
              • May 2011
              • 3912

              #291
              Re: 2017 Draft Watch

              After watching and reading quite a bit of analysis Id take Coffield/Clarke at 9 and 16 Stacevich/Murphy/Bailey/Bonar.

              Anyone have Combine results for both Coffield/Clarke?

              I wouldn't be surprised if we took a punt on Murphy at 9 though, he reminds me a little of Will Hayward who I was keen on with our first pick in last years draft I could see hit fitting in well as a third forward in our new set up including Schache and Boyd.

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              • The Doctor
                Coaching Staff
                • Jan 2007
                • 3709

                #292
                Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                I like Zac Bailey but I don't think he is a 1st round pick with so many good options available. His break away ability is excellent however some of his finishing & delivery is not top shelf.
                Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                • divvydan
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 1502

                  #293
                  Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                  Hopefully for Stephenson, his heart issue is more along the lines of Eagleton than Josh Toy.

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                  • choconmientay
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1312

                    #294
                    Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                    TheRoar: AFL mock draft 2017: Top 30
                    Interesting read with the reasoning behind their picks between Maddy Friend and Josh Elliott. 15 Nov 2017

                    Pick 1 – Brisbane Lions (Maddy Friend) – Cameron Rayner
                    187cm, 87kg

                    Maddy
                    Rayner is the best player in the draft. He’s got class, x-factor, and is really the complete package. He can also slot in and play senior footy next year, which is an advantage for Brisbane given the club’s young list.

                    In taking Rayner, the Lions will have a 200-plus-game player who will complement the inside midfielders the club has recruited in recent years.

                    I also considered Paddy Dow, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Adam Cerra and Andrew Brayshaw

                    Pick 2 – Fremantle Dockers (Josh Elliott) – Paddy Dow
                    185cm, 78kg

                    Josh
                    If I’m Fremantle this year my number one priority is to find a big, hulking forward who can be the centrepiece of the forward line – but there just isn’t a prospect like that in this draft that you could justify taking with either of the Dockers’ top five picks.

                    Instead, this is a pick to keep building a promising midfield. There’s a lot of good prospects here and it’s a tight decision, but I’m picking Dow – his breakaway speed from the contest is a rare trait and could be what leads him to become an elite midfielder.

                    Maddy
                    I disagree that they need to take a key forward in the draft – they’ve got Cam McCarthy and Matt Taberner, and are looking at Brennan Cox and Griffin Logue as potential key forwards as well. They’re well stocked there.

                    In that sense, Dow is a great pick up.

                    Pick 3 – Carlton Blues (Maddy Friend) – Adam Cerra
                    186cm, 80kg

                    Maddy
                    The comparisons with Scott Pendlebury are cliche, but the classy Cerra shares many of the same traits.

                    I also considered Luke Davies-Uniacke, given the Blues have lost Bryce Gibbs, but Cerra is too good to pass up.

                    Pick 4 – North Melbourne Kangaroos (Josh Elliott) – Luke Davies-Uniacke
                    187cm, 85kg

                    Josh
                    Oof, that pick leaves me with a tough decision to make. I was planning for Jaidyn Stephenson at this pick but realistically I can’t see North Melbourne overlooking Luke Davies-Uniacke – or Dow or Rayner for that matter – if available.

                    It’s telling of how even the top handful of picks is that someone like LDU could easily go at No.1 but could also be available here – a big-bodied midfielder type, he’s probably the most immediately ready for AFL football of this year’s draft, which is not something I tend to take into account, but which will appeal to North given the large number of senior players they’ve cut over the last two years. They can build a future midfield around him.

                    Pick 5 – Fremantle Dockers (Josh Elliott) Jaidyn Stephenson
                    189cm, 75kg

                    Josh
                    Probably the best case scenario for Fremantle is that one of the players in the top four above slips through to them at some pick, but I’d be just as happy picking Jaidyn Stephenson.

                    Stephenson is tall, at 189cm, but has excellent speed, and plays courageous, offensive football – it’s not a group of traits that you see together very often and it gives him as much if not more of a superstar ceiling than any other prospect going around.

                    In him and Dow, I’ve picked Fremantle a pair of speedy, goal-kicking midfielders who can balance out Ross Lyon’s natural tendencies towards defensive football.


                    ....


                    Pick 9 – Western Bulldogs (Josh Elliott) – Darcy Fogarty
                    192cm, 95kg

                    Josh
                    I was probably hoping Aaron Naughton might slip to here – while the Bulldogs added two key position players over the trade period, it’s still an area on which they could work.

                    There isn’t really one on the board at this stage, so instead I’m going for tall midfielder-forward Darcy Fogarty. He’s 191cm, so not quite true key-position height, but clubs will look to start him off as a forward or half-forward and eventually develop him into a tall inside midfielder who kicks goals.

                    There are several players who would be in the mix here, I’ve picked him over them because I like his offensive capabilities as a point of difference to those who are more comfortable playing behind the ball.


                    Pick 16 – Western Bulldogs (Josh Elliott) – Lochie O’Brien
                    184cm, 77kg

                    Josh
                    From the Bulldogs’ perspective, it would be disappointing to see two promising talls in Brander and Allen taken in the two picks before this one – Brander, in particular, would’ve been a good value get here.

                    Noah Balta would be an option if they still wanted a tall, but with Lochie O’Brien on the table I’ll pick up him instead.

                    An outside midfielder with some speed and a good left-foot kick, they can start him on half-back to replace Bob Murphy, with an eye to him becoming a fulltime winger as he progresses.
                    - Jack Higgins (10), Nick Coffield (11), Charlie Constable(12), Aiden Bonar(13), Jarrod Brander(14) still available at our first pick.
                    - Sam Hayes, Ed Richards(18), Noah Balta, Nathan Murphy(22) still available at our second pick.

                    - Cerra tipped at 2, Naughton at 6, Richards at 18
                    - Tim Kelly get picked early in the second round.
                    - Zac Bailey tipped to be picked up with pick 30.
                    It always seems impossible until it's done. Nelson Mandela

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                    • Throughandthrough
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 3206

                      #295
                      Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                      i'll do backflips if we get Fogarty

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #296
                        Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                        Any guesses where Sambono ends up? He seems to have a little media attention now.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67691

                          #297
                          Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                          i'll do backflips if we get Fogarty
                          Darcy or Lachlan
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #298
                            Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Darcy or Lachlan
                            Both?
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67691

                              #299
                              Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Any guesses where Sambono ends up? He seems to have a little media attention now.
                              Story here from two days ago: Adam Sambono’s remarkable and inspirational rise to genuine prospect

                              They predict pick 40 plus
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                #300
                                Re: 2017 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Story here from two days ago: Adam Sambono’s remarkable and inspirational rise to genuine prospect

                                They predict pick 40 plus
                                As high as 40! I thought he'd be a work in progress at best, so much later in the draft perhaps 60-70 or so. One to watch on draft night to see just how high he can go.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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