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  • The Bulldogs Bite
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 11244

    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

    Originally posted by comrade
    After 3 games, Cody Raak is averaging 163 SuperCoach points per game, #1 in NAB League (Daicos is averaging 162).
    Hard to understand why we didn't rookie him...
    W00F!

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18027

      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
      Hard to understand why we didn't rookie him...
      Yeah, I think we made a mistake keeping both Hayes/Roarke Smith and overlooking Raak.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

        I watched Jayden Foster (F/S) a few times as an overage tall. He looked good. We passed, Carlton took him at the ND. Unfortunately Fossie Jr didn’t look close to ever getting a senior game.

        Overage talls should dominate 17 & 18 year olds. I’m interested to know if he’s in the Fossie Jr bucket, or genuinely blitzing games because he’s a gun. 17 other clubs overlooked him too.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 18027

          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          I watched Jayden Foster (F/S) a few times as an overage tall. He looked good. We passed, Carlton took him at the ND. Unfortunately Fossie Jr didn’t look close to ever getting a senior game.

          Overage talls should dominate 17 & 18 year olds. I’m interested to know if he’s in the Fossie Jr bucket, or genuinely blitzing games because he’s a gun. 17 other clubs overlooked him too.
          If NAB League was played last year, I have no doubt Raak would have been picked up.

          He's not dominating games because he's bigger or more developed, his game is a carbon copy of Jordan Ridley. Just knows where to go and uses it very well.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11150

            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

            Originally posted by comrade
            Yeah, I think we made a mistake keeping both Hayes/Roarke Smith and overlooking Raak.
            The thing is we could have added Raak as a category B rookie without sacrificing any other player (although the jury is well and truly out on the benefit of retaining those 2 regardless).

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18027

              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

              Well, this certainly changes things...

              Clubs can submit up to three players for medical examination before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft


              From the article:

              Mid-season draft rules

              Players who have committed to another year with a Northern or Next Generation Academy are ineligible
              I thought it was weird we were exposing Raak to VFL footy and other club scouts. Now it makes more sense.

              EDIT: I just noticed that this article is from 2019 so I don't know if the rules still apply.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27654

                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                Originally posted by comrade
                Well, this certainly changes things...

                Clubs can submit up to three players for medical examination before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft


                From the article:



                I thought it was weird we were exposing Raak to VFL footy and other club scouts. Now it makes more sense.

                EDIT: I just noticed that this article is from 2019 so I don't know if the rules still apply.
                All the other club scouts are going to know all about Raak (and McPherson for that matter) anyway. They'd be derelict in their duty if they didn't. Same as our scouts would know all about the kids who are in other club's academies.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • comrade
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 18027

                  Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  All the other club scouts are going to know all about Raak (and McPherson for that matter) anyway. They'd be derelict in their duty if they didn't. Same as our scouts would know all about the kids who are in other club's academies.
                  But why continue to develop him if other clubs can easily select him?
                  Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                    If someone convinced Raak & Macpherson that their development is better not nominating for the MSD, then we have automatic rights at the ND on MacPherson and rights on Raak if he gets through the top 20.

                    I’m hoping Raak getting a few VFL games (around JUH, Schache, Wallis etc) might be pointing towards Raak not nominating for the MSD. Or that’s what I’m telling myself.
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • The Adelaide Connection
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2780

                      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                      So does Dunkley potentially get moved to the long-term injury list and enable us to select someone mid-season?

                      How does it work if you select a player but the injured player comes back before the end of the year?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14945

                        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                        Originally posted by comrade
                        But why continue to develop him if other clubs can easily select him?
                        Because we've made a commitment to each other.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14945

                          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          Well, this certainly changes things...

                          Clubs can submit up to three players for medical examination before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft


                          From the article:



                          I thought it was weird we were exposing Raak to VFL footy and other club scouts. Now it makes more sense.

                          EDIT: I just noticed that this article is from 2019 so I don't know if the rules still apply.
                          Nope. This is from a few weeks ago:



                          CLUBS have been told they will regain the rights to Academy-tied over-age prospects in this season's NAB AFL Draft, should they not be recruited to a rival team during the upcoming Mid-Season Rookie Draft.

                          The decision comes as a handful of clubs continue to monitor the development of athletic 202cm ruckman and Giants academy member Jack Driscoll, who will turn 19 next week and was among the standouts for the Murray Bushrangers in a NAB League practice match last month.

                          Versatile 193cm Western Jets defender Cody Raak, who last year was eligible to be recruited to the Western Bulldogs as part of its Next Generation Academy program, is another who has shot into prominence recently following a dominant 31-disposal performance in last week's NAB League season-opener.

                          It leaves a host of draft hopefuls with an added layer of certainty ahead of both the mid-season and national drafts, with clubs set to regain their ability to win first access to overage Academy-tied players should they not land a spot on a rival club's rookie list throughout the year.

                          Previously in 2019 when the Mid-Season Rookie Draft was reintroduced, overage prospects still involved in either Northern Academy or NGA programs could not nominate for the mid-season draft unless they cut all Academy ties.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Happy Days
                            Hall of Fame
                            • May 2008
                            • 10139

                            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            If someone convinced Raak & Macpherson that their development is better not nominating for the MSD, then we have automatic rights at the ND on MacPherson and rights on Raak if he gets through the top 20.

                            I’m hoping Raak getting a few VFL games (around JUH, Schache, Wallis etc) might be pointing towards Raak not nominating for the MSD. Or that’s what I’m telling myself.
                            If we ask him that and there’s interest out there from other clubs he’s well within his rights to tell us where to go. We had our chance and didn’t take him.
                            - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                              Originally posted by Happy Days
                              If we ask him that and there’s interest out there from other clubs he’s well within his rights to tell us where to go. We had our chance and didn’t take him.
                              You’re right. No argument. The only thing I think of is it’s probably best not to play the rest year in the VFL. Plus he could end up interstate or worse, at North. If we promise to match a bid he’s guaranteed of being drafted in the top 20 or us. That’s two years guaranteed, so a longer contract. If he gets to us, we are in a window for success. I think there’s a few factors for him to think about, including that most MSD draftees ultimately fail being drafted and then play in the twos.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11150

                                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                                Another father-son Dog rising, Darcy enters top-20 calculations

                                THE WESTERN Bulldogs' run of talent looks set to extend again at this year's NAB AFL Draft, with father-son prospect Sam Darcy impressing in the early stages of the season.

                                The son of former captain and current club director Luke Darcy has some scouts viewing him as a possible top-20 talent after a promising start to the NAB League season.

                                Darcy, who trained with the Bulldogs over summer as part of the club's father-son program, is also a ruckman, having measured in at 203cm earlier this year.

                                A foot injury saw his start to this season delayed but he played in the Oakleigh Chargers' round three game against Eastern Ranges and collected 13 disposals on debut. He backed it up with a more eye-catching showing in round four, when the 17-year-old had 21 disposals, nine marks and three clearances in the Chargers' win over the Western Jets.

                                Although still lightly framed, it is Darcy's ability to move around the ground and impact the play that has recruiters most bullish about his draft credentials. He has returned to play at school level during the NAB League season's pause.

                                The Dogs will get first access to Darcy under the father-son rule, with Luke playing 226 games and booting 183 goals for the club in his career from 1994-2007.

                                Sam Darcy would be a third generation addition to the club under the father-son rule, with Luke joining the Bulldogs under the same rule after his father David played 133 games for Footscray.

                                Few clubs have benefited from the father-son rule as prominently as the Bulldogs, who currently have Mitch Wallis, Lachie Hunter, Tom Liberatore, Rhylee West and Zaine Cordy all as father-son selections at the club.

                                The Dogs also claimed Jamarra Ugle-Hagan with the No.1 pick at last year's NAB AFL Draft as a Next Generation Academy selection, which will not happen again after the AFL brought in new rules that disallow clubs from matching bids on NGA players within the top-20 picks this year and top-40 next year.

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