Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

[divvydan]

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Looks like we got JUH just in time.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/523629/statement-update-on-nga-concessions-pre-season-supplementary-selection-period-nab-afl-mid-season-rookie-draft

The following changes to the NGA concession model ahead of the 2021 and 2022 NAB AFL Drafts will be as follows:

From 2021, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 21 in the NAB AFL Draft. All other players selected from Pick 41 onwards can be matched by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.

From 2022, nominated NGA prospects will only be eligible to be matched from Pick 41 onwards by their Club using their next available selection, while undrafted players are still eligible to pre-selected on the rookie list.

[soupman]

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Looks like we got JUH just in time.


https://www.afl.com.au/news/523629/s...n-rookie-draft

So "develop your players, but not too well". Whats the point of having a NGA if it gives you no return when you do it well?

[divvydan]

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So "develop your players, but not too well". Whats the point of having a NGA if it gives you no return when you do it well?

Looks like the AFL is mostly taking over with support from clubs, rather than the other way around.

From 2021, Next Generation Academies (NGAs) - targeting Indigenous and multicultural players - will be overseen by the AFL Talent Pathway program with support from AFL Clubs

[soupman]

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Looks like the AFL is mostly taking over with support from clubs, rather than the other way around.

Teach me for not reading the article properly.

Big change, and probably for the best in terms of draft integrity. Since players are still tied to AFL clubs I wonder what the breakdown is.

[Axe Man]

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Looks like the AFL is mostly taking over with support from clubs, rather than the other way around.

Exactly how it should be.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Exactly how it should be.

Absolutely, but only after we draft Jamarra and have every other club moan about it forever. Love It!!!

[josie]

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Yesssss😹

[Bulldog4life]

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Absolutely, but only after we draft Jamarra and have every other club moan about it forever. Love It!!!

We usually are at the other end of the stick too. I love it.

[bulldogtragic]

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Cal Twomey’s current prediction is JUH slides to Pick 4.

God I hope he’s right. Pick 1 = 2,400 and Pick 4 1,600 points after discount. That’s equivalent to Pick 23 in saved draft points.

[GVGjr]

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Cal Twomey’s current prediction is JUH slides to Pick 4.

God I hope he’s right. Pick 1 = 2,400 and Pick 4 1,600 points after discount. That’s equivalent to Pick 23 in saved draft points.

I would plan around the Sydney selecting Ugle-Hagan at pick 3

Apparently Adelaide is considering a couple of pick swap scenarios with us
1) Adelaide give up picks 22 and 23 (1,660 points) and receive pick 14 (1,161 points) and pick 54 (220 points)
2) Adelaide give up picks 22 and 33 (1,408 points) and receive pick 14 (1,161 points)
(Pick 33 is the pick we gave them as part of the Keath trade)

Overall we could acquire JUH with picks 14 and 41 which I regard as a great win for us

I suspect we will not trade the picks until the draft night and depending on where Ugle-Hagan is bid on which scenario is played out.

[bulldogtragic]

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I would plan around the Sydney selecting Ugle-Hagan at pick 3

Apparently Adelaide is considering a couple of pick swap scenarios with us
1) Adelaide give up picks 22 and 23 (1,660 points) and receive pick 14 (1,161 points) and pick 54 (220 points)
2) Adelaide give up picks 22 and 33 (1,408 points) and receive pick 14 (1,161 points)
(Pick 33 is the pick we gave them as part of the Keath trade)

Overall we could acquire JUH with picks 14 and 41 which I regard as a great win for us

I suspect we will not trade the picks until the draft night and where Ugle-Hagan is bid on.

Fleshing out your good analysis:

Pick 3: 2,234 less 20% = 1,788 points needed
Pick 14 for 22 & 33 = 1,408 points needed
380 more draft points needed - Pick 41 = 412 Points (we could split that pick 41 for maybe another 100 points. That would cover MacPherson/Raak at Pick 46 (factoring in the 197 point discount). If the other gets to Pick 55 we can match for free.
Pick 54 or Young (in the Ben Brown trade) covers Hannan. You'd think pick 90 covers Martin.

So these draft points trades covers all our priority access kids (without deficit) and secure the fringe trades. Which is good. That leaves Dunkley and anyone else we may trade out, or depending on the Dunkley trade, brining others in. That's a fine result. But as I've said, I think we should trade Pick 14 up, but maybe the club would prefer a more conservative strategy and trade down to the 6 clubs who want our Pick 14. Which is fine.

[EasternWest]

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Fleshing out your good analysis:

Pick 3: 2,234 less 20% = 1,788 points needed
Pick 14 for 22 & 33 = 1,408 points needed
380 more draft points needed - Pick 41 = 412 Points (we could split that pick 41 for maybe another 100 points. That would cover MacPherson/Raak at Pick 46 (factoring in the 197 point discount). If the other gets to Pick 55 we can match for free.
Pick 54 or Young (in the Ben Brown trade) covers Hannan. You'd think pick 90 covers Martin.

So these draft points trades covers all our priority access kids (without deficit) and secure the fringe trades. Which is good. That leaves Dunkley and anyone else we may trade out, or depending on the Dunkley trade, brining others in. That's a fine result. But as I've said, I think we should trade Pick 14 up, but maybe the club would prefer a more conservative strategy and trade down to the 6 clubs who want our Pick 14. Which is fine.

Reading these posts that I can barely understand the maths behind warm my heart.

[Mofra]

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Pick 14 to the crows for a "small points surplus" means the AFL can't dispute any handshake agreement either.

[Bornadog]

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How does the system work exactly when you are making up the points? Can you choose the picks you want to make it up? or must you use each pick starting with your first pick, then second etc? So if we had pick 7 and 14, they both go towards the points, or can we just use 14, plus 3rd round, then 4th round etc?

[GVGjr]

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How does the system work exactly when you are making up the points? Can you choose the picks you want to make it up? or must you use each pick starting with your first pick, then second etc? So if we had pick 7 and 14, they both go towards the points, or can we just use 14, plus 3rd round, then 4th round etc?

Must be from the first pick down to whatever you need to cover the requirement