Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

**divvydan** · 09-11-2020, 05:26 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Looking most likely that we'll be doing a deal with Adelaide for our first round pick (14) with an unofficial no nomination clause as well.

Unclear what exactly that looks like but Adelaide currently have picks 22, 23,33 and 40.

Source is Graham Wright (Haw) speaking on the Hawthorn trade podcast (https://www.hawthornfc.com.au/news/834614)

Around 7:30 into the podcast he's asked about Hawthorn trading for our pick 14 and replies that Adelaide looks to be a long way ahead of everyone there.

**divvydan** · 10-11-2020, 12:08 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Adelaide has now moved on pick 33, which I was expecting to be part of any pick swap deal. Leaves them with 22,23,40,56,66 this year worth any points.

We currently have 14, 41, 54.

Picks 22 and 23 are worth 1660pts and 14 + 41 is worth 1573 which isn't a big enough difference for us, given other clubs are interested too. 14 + 54 is 1381 which is a big enough difference that we would take it.

If they were going lower, 23 + 40 is worth 1244pts vs 14's 1161pts which again is a small improvement and we might be able to do better. 22 + 40 is worth 1274pts

**The Doctor** · 10-11-2020, 03:36 PM

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We should turn our attention to the Demons for draft points

Melbourne picks 26, 31, 33, 43, 50, 68, 69, 89

They will probably need 26 for Ben Brown but some of the other picks could work for us in a package.

Points schedule;

1. 3000 19. 948 37. 483 55. 207 73. 9
2. 2517 20. 912 38. 465 56. 194 74. -
3. 2234 21. 878 39. 446 57. 182
4. 2034 22. 845 40. 429 58. 170
5. 1878 23. 815 41. 412 59. 158
6. 1751 24. 785 42. 395 60. 146
7. 1644 25. 756 43. 378 61. 135
8. 1551 26. 729 44. 362 62. 123
9. 1469 27. 703 45. 347 63. 112
10. 1395 28. 677 46. 331 64. 101
11. 1329 29. 653 47. 316 65. 90
12. 1268 30. 629 48. 302 66. 80
13. 1212 31. 606 49. 287 67. 69
14. 1161 32. 584 50. 273 68. 59
15. 1112 33. 563 51. 259 69. 49
16. 1067 34. 542 52. 246 70. 39
17. 1025 35. 522 53. 233 71. 29
18. 985 36. 502 54. 220 72. 19

**Bulldog Joe** · 10-11-2020, 04:15 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by divvydan

Adelaide has now moved on pick 33, which I was expecting to be part of any pick swap deal. Leaves them with 22,23,40,56,66 this year worth any points.

We currently have 14, 41, 54.

Picks 22 and 23 are worth 1660pts and 14 + 41 is worth 1573 which isn't a big enough difference for us, given other clubs are interested too. 14 + 54 is 1381 which is a big enough difference that we would take it.

If they were going lower, 23 + 40 is worth 1244pts vs 14's 1161pts which again is a small improvement and we might be able to do better. 22 + 40 is worth 1274pts

There would be absolutely no reason for them to keep 22 instead of 23. As we will use it for points the next pick gets elevated anyway.

**azabob** · 10-11-2020, 08:20 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

North also are getting a nice set of second round picks and of course pick 2. I’d be keeping very close with them.

**bulldogtragic** · 10-11-2020, 08:34 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by azabob

North also are getting a nice set of second round picks and of course pick 2. I’d be keeping very close with them.

Sam is, just gave them La Young for a 7 pick downgrade in the 4th round...

I think if Sam could get Twodogs to make a public announcement of how much he has always loved them, it could seal the deal.

**Happy Days** · 10-11-2020, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by bulldogtragic

Sam is, just gave them La Young for a 7 pick downgrade in the 4th round...

I think if Sam could get Twodogs to make a public announcement of how much he has always loved them, it could seal the deal.

We gave them Lachie Young for Stef Martin. If they don’t bid I highly doubt this trade would have anything to do with it.

**bulldogtragic** · 10-11-2020, 09:01 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by Happy Days

We gave them Lachie Young for Stef Martin. If they don’t bid I highly doubt this trade would have anything to do with it.

The point of Az as I read it was keeping close to North, which I take to mean build good will for future pick trades this week in some sense. As opposed to bidding or nor bidding. Or that's how I read it. To be accurate, they got Young and Pick 70 for Pick 63. A 7 pick downgrade in the fourth round. That's good will. No matter what happens, I think Sam Power is showing clubs good will in trading in general, while holding the line on more substantive ones.

**Twodogs** · 10-11-2020, 09:13 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by bulldogtragic

Sam is, just gave them La Young for a 7 pick downgrade in the 4th round...

I think if Sam could get Twodogs to make a public announcement of how much he has always loved them, it could seal the deal.

No problem. Here goes. I really rate the Cow Fuc... sorry, I meant to say that I really rate the Northteoh. Sorry, Nortuykmh. STOP IT. IT'S NOT DIFFICULT. I really rate the Nor.. no Norf, sorry Nor. or, norrrrr. Nuhhhh. Normelven. Norrrr

Nup, can't do it. Sorry.

**azabob** · 11-11-2020, 06:25 AM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by bulldogtragic

The point of Az as I read it was keeping close to North, which I take to mean build good will for future pick trades this week in some sense. As opposed to bidding or nor bidding. Or that's how I read it. To be accurate, they got Young and Pick 70 for Pick 63. A 7 pick downgrade in the fourth round. That's good will. No matter what happens, I think Sam Power is showing clubs good will in trading in general, while holding the line on more substantive ones.

Yep spot on. North will likely get more second rounds for Ben Brown.

The beauty is draft picks can be traded up until one week prior to the draft and on draft night.

**Mofra** · 11-11-2020, 12:11 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by azabob

Yep spot on. North will likely get more second rounds for Ben Brown.

The beauty is draft picks can be traded up until one week prior to the draft and on draft night.

Yep no need to rush a picks trade now. There will be some handshake agreements going on post-trading period.

**bulldogtragic** · 12-11-2020, 06:55 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

26 - 729
33 - 563
41 - 412
42 - 395
54 - 220

2,321 Draft Points - Covers JUH as high as Pick 2 as well as later bids on MacPherson &/or Raak. That's without any more trading, so we have insurance to avoid a deficit.

Good times Sir Samuel.

**The Doctor** · 12-11-2020, 07:08 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by bulldogtragic

26 - 729
33 - 563
41 - 412
42 - 395
54 - 220

2,321 Draft Points - Covers JUH as high as Pick 2 as well as later bids on MacPherson &/or Raak. That's without any more trading, do we have insurance to avoid a deficit.

Good times Sir Samuel.

the trade of pick 14 for 26, 33 & 42 give us a 526 point upgrade

Seriously sensational stuff from Sam Power

**Scraggers** · 12-11-2020, 07:19 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

A+ for Sam (the Iceman) Power

**Bornadog** · 12-11-2020, 07:57 PM

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

Originally posted by The Doctor

the trade of pick 14 for 26, 33 & 42 give us a 526 point upgrade

Seriously sensational stuff from Sam Power

So if Adelaide bid at 1, we have the points. That is all I care about

Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

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