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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by Mofra
    4th rounder

    Pick 56 (196 points) less 197 point discount.

    Seems fair!
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14951

      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

      Rylee Sanders is certainly eye-catching

      Nick Watson seems the type of player who could be poo for 95% of game time and still walk off with 3 goals. Will just have 'moments' even in his poor games, I'd imagine some recruiters would love that.
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44640

        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

        McKercher is such a good player. Should go early in the draft.
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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14951

          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          McKercher is such a good player. Should go early in the draft.
          Top 10 for sure. Ditto Sanders
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          • The Doctor
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 3702

            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

            Easy win for the Allies. Never threatened. They should take out the champs now. Metro almost as lame as the commentators covering the game today. AFL talking about improving draft coverage would want to do something about professionally showcasing their elite junior matches. The commentators didn't know any of the players or how to pronounce their names and must have apologised 500 times for it throughout the coverage. Pitiifull effort.

            That aside the Allies were fantastic. 5 of their players could go top 10. McKercher is going to be a star.

            Not many winners for Metro but a shout out to Ollie Murphy who had the job on Walter. After a blazing start by Walter, Murphy held him reasonably well from then.
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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14951

              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

              How often would Tassie have 3 first round picks in the same draft?
              Callinan had some good moments too so it's possible.
              Scarily, I remember his dad getting picked up from the SANFL to get a shot with the crows.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44640

                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                Originally posted by The Doctor
                Easy win for the Allies. Never threatened. They should take out the champs now. Metro almost as lame as the commentators covering the game today. AFL talking about improving draft coverage would want to do something about professionally showcasing their elite junior matches. The commentators didn't know any of the players or how to pronounce their names and must have apologised 500 times for it throughout the coverage. Pitiifull effort.

                That aside the Allies were fantastic. 5 of their players could go top 10. McKercher is going to be a star.

                Not many winners for Metro but a shout out to Ollie Murphy who had the job on Walter. After a blazing start by Walter, Murphy held him reasonably well from then.
                Those commentators were shocking. It's like they didn't know the players or it was their first time calling a game. Their constant laughter at what each of them were saying was more than a bit distracting.

                The Allies were awesome, there will be a lot of players drafted from that team.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44640

                  Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                  Originally posted by Mofra
                  Top 10 for sure. Ditto Sanders
                  I wouldn't be surprised if at least 10 of those Allies players were drafted.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44640

                    Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                    I think the success of the Allies underlines how well the academy's are working.
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                    • mjp
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7364

                      Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I think the success of the Allies underlines how well the academy's are working.
                      And highlights how much the week-to-week level of competition in the 'footy states' is being diluted with the players split between state league games and school footy...

                      It's a problem.
                      What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44640

                        Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by mjp
                        And highlights how much the week-to-week level of competition in the 'footy states' is being diluted with the players split between state league games and school footy...

                        It's a problem.
                        Would it be hard to get a better balance or is it one or the other?
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                        • mjp
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 7364

                          Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Would it be hard to get a better balance or is it one or the other?
                          School footy is stupid. The kids need to be playing in the state league comps. It's all too diluted. During this part of the year when the champs are on and school footy is going, the standard in the state league games drops away...it doesn't get as bad as private school footy is but it isn't where it needs to be.
                          What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14951

                            Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by mjp
                            School footy is stupid. The kids need to be playing in the state league comps. It's all too diluted. During this part of the year when the champs are on and school footy is going, the standard in the state league games drops away...it doesn't get as bad as private school footy is but it isn't where it needs to be.
                            How much of that is the APS demanding players line up for school footy, after all "we gave you a scholarship"?

                            It is very weird we have so many so-called "elite" pathways, given how WA & SA differ for the 17 & 18 year olds.
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                            • mjp
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 7364

                              Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              How much of that is the APS demanding players line up for school footy, after all "we gave you a scholarship"?

                              It is very weird we have so many so-called "elite" pathways, given how WA & SA differ for the 17 & 18 year olds.
                              To be fair to the APS schools, it's the same in WA and SA.

                              And - to make a further point, when the kids are at school they are obviously going to WANT to play for their school...why wouldn't you? I mean, YES - it's part of what they signed up to do (scholarship or otherwise) but a the same time if you're there 5 days per week of course you will want to play there...then when school footy isn't on you'll want to go and play for your club...

                              It simply dilutes the pathway though which doesn't help anyone. You need the best kids playing vs the best kids as often as possible...and if 30% of them are off playing school footy for a portion of the season, well, you don't get that. It's rubbish.
                              What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                              • macca
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 2366

                                Re: 2023 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by mjp
                                To be fair to the APS schools, it's the same in WA and SA.

                                And - to make a further point, when the kids are at school they are obviously going to WANT to play for their school...why wouldn't you? I mean, YES - it's part of what they signed up to do (scholarship or otherwise) but a the same time if you're there 5 days per week of course you will want to play there...then when school footy isn't on you'll want to go and play for your club...

                                It simply dilutes the pathway though which doesn't help anyone. You need the best kids playing vs the best kids as often as possible...and if 30% of them are off playing school footy for a portion of the season, well, you don't get that. It's rubbish.
                                Draft wise i see that being fairer for all the clubs due to :
                                1. Making recruiters look wider and not just one or 2 comps. It may allow them also to hid some of their recruits
                                2. Give kids a chance to be drafted that may require some developeent. LIN jong is a good example that comes to mind
                                3. Kids who cannot afford to go to elite schools a reasonable standard of education , which i think is most important

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