Is it time to make a big move?

[Mofra]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Trading for a player no one is hyped about. Putting on a trade deal that is too good to refuse.

You mean like Sam Darley last year (no one hyped about) then getting Crameri as well with an offer too good to refuse?

[Greystache]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

You mean like Sam Darley last year (no one hyped about) then getting Crameri as well with an offer too good to refuse?

Or perhaps we should go back to chasing guns unhyped guns like Djerrkurra, Callan, and then throwing big offers too good to refuse at stars like Sherman and McDougal. They were brilliant selections

[Bornadog]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

You mean like Sam Darley last year (no one hyped about) then getting Crameri as well with an offer too good to refuse?

No, like a Mitch Clark, or Frawley or some other KPP, per the OP.

[Bornadog]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Or perhaps we should go back to chasing guns unhyped guns like Djerrkurra, Callan, and then throwing big offers too good to refuse at stars like Sherman and McDougal. They were brilliant selections

Where is the unlike button when you need it.

[Twodogs]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Or perhaps we should go back to chasing guns unhyped guns like Djerrkurra, Callan, and then throwing big offers too good to refuse at stars like Sherman and McDougal. They were brilliant selections

Thanks I'd forgotten about Djerrkurra. I'll never forget Tim Callan though.

[ratsmac]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

I think we should look at someone who has just won back to back premiership medals like a Luke Breust or Isaac Smith. The Hawks seem to fly under the radar when it comes to having their players poached. We need some good ball users more than a key forward IMO especially with Higgins gone now. What's the use of having a gorilla forward if we can't get enough clean ball to him. Hawthorn surely must have some pressure on the salary cap and if they don't they have plenty of gun players who are under paid because they are looking for success rather than coin. Well I say let's throw some money at someone like the above mentioned and see what happens.

With us getting a gorilla forward, someone mentioned Hawkins in an earlier post and how he was a man child and took a number of years to come on as a power forward. Straight away it made me think of Redpath. We might have the player we are searching for already. We may just need to show confidence in him and be patient and build a midfield that can deliver the footy to him. I may be wrong but Geelong had to wait a while for Hawkins to grow into his body so it just got me thinking.

[EasternWest]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Or perhaps we should go back to chasing guns unhyped guns like Djerrkurra, Callan, and then throwing big offers too good to refuse at stars like Sherman and McDougal. They were brilliant selections

Didn't we get McDougal cheap?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Didn't we get McDougal cheap?

Yep, we agreed to a round pick to get Aker, and traded down to give Brissy a lower pick in the round.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Ok. Just throwing it out there.

GCS want Beams. Beams wants Qld. GCS need a higher pick, not more picks.

Pick 5 - Dogs to GCS pick 7 and pick 14 (fringe player if they want)

Pick 7 - Draft Key Defender
Pick 14 & Cooney to Hawthorn for Schoenmakers (and Lowden if wanted) and Pick 18

Pick 18 - Trade to Sydney Sam Reid (or Jaksch)

Pick 25 - Zaine Cordy

Pick 26 (SH comp) - Outside pace

Jones & Tutt - Pick 35 or so - Membrey

Pick 42 - Best Available

Pick 60 - Best Available or PSD.

Upgrade Jong

Sum total:

Tall defender with pick 7 - age 18
Schoenmakers - Tall defender - age 24
Lowden - Ruck - age 23
Sam Reid - Or Jacksch - Tall forward - age 24 (21)
Cordy - Tall defender/flanker - age 18
Outside pace, pacey midfielder at pick 26 - age 18
Membrey - Forward Utility - age 20
Two best available kids
Jong upgraded

So why, Frawley is at Hawks, so Schoenmakers might have a wandering eye. Cooney to Hawks isn't inconceivable. Hawks would love at a top 15 pick to add to Frawley & Cooney. Lowden wants out and would be steak knives. Much like the type of McEvoy trade. Harder to do, but not completely stupid?

GCS want Beams, pick 7 won't get it done. They don't 'need' another late first rounder if the can keep their list together, so from an option of what they lose, my guess is unproven pick 14 is more likely to be sacrificed to get Beams.

Reid would be ok, but late first round is surely the high water mark. Sydney get the cap space and get picks 17 and 18. Surely that gets them interested. (You could interchange Reid for Jacksch if we wanted that)

Membrey essentially gets added to the deal for the best we can get for Jones and Tutt. Say late second rounder should be enough.

Still have a high first rounder, high second rounder, high third rounder and high fourth rounder in the draft.

Lose Higgins, Cooney, Jones, Tutt and shot at Wright/McCartin, but many excellent good talls at 7.

Go after a big name KPF with the kitchen sink next year.

Thought?

[anfo27]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Ok. Just throwing it out there.

GCS want Beams. Beams wants Qld. GCS need a higher pick, not more picks.

Pick 5 - Dogs to GCS pick 7 and pick 14 (fringe player if they want)


Pick 7 - Draft Key Defender
Pick 14 & Cooney to Hawthorn for Schoenmakers (and Lowden if wanted) and Pick 18

Pick 18 - Trade to Sydney Sam Reid (or Jaksch)

Pick 25 - Zaine Cordy

Pick 26 (SH comp) - Outside pace

Jones & Tutt - Pick 35 or so - Membrey

Pick 42 - Best Available

Pick 60 - Best Available or PSD.

Upgrade Jong

Sum total:

Tall defender with pick 7 - age 18
Schoenmakers - Tall defender - age 24
Lowden - Ruck - age 23
Sam Reid - Or Jacksch - Tall forward - age 24 (21)
Cordy - Tall defender/flanker - age 18
Outside pace, pacey midfielder at pick 26 - age 18
Membrey - Forward Utility - age 20
Two best available kids
Jong upgraded

So why, Frawley is at Hawks, so Schoenmakers might have a wandering eye. Cooney to Hawks isn't inconceivable. Hawks would love at a top 15 pick to add to Frawley & Cooney. Lowden wants out and would be steak knives. Much like the type of McEvoy trade. Harder to do, but not completely stupid?

GCS want Beams, pick 7 won't get it done. They don't 'need' another late first rounder if the can keep their list together, so from an option of what they lose, my guess is unproven pick 14 is more likely to be sacrificed to get Beams.

Reid would be ok, but late first round is surely the high water mark. Sydney get the cap space and get picks 17 and 18. Surely that gets them interested. (You could interchange Reid for Jacksch if we wanted that)

Membrey essentially gets added to the deal for the best we can get for Jones and Tutt. Say late second rounder should be enough.

Still have a high first rounder, high second rounder, high third rounder and high fourth rounder in the draft.

Lose Higgins, Cooney, Jones, Tutt and shot at Wright/McCartin, but many excellent good talls at 7.

Go after a big name KPF with the kitchen sink next year.

Thought?

Have no interest in the shoe maker, he is ordinary. I'm in the get the McCartin or Wright camp.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Have no interest in the shoe maker, he is ordinary. I'm in the get the McCartin or Wright camp.

All that for one player ID out of it... Ok change Schoenmakers to another player we can trade down for. Keep everything else. Maybe trade pick 14 for pick 20 and Jaksch or another GWS player, Tomlinson maybe, we want for pick 14 and knives (Tutt etc).

Draft Pick 7, Jacksch/Tomlinson (14 down to 20 and Tutt) , Sam Reid with pick 20, Z. Cordy, Pick 26, Membrey for Jones comp, picks 42 & 60. Upgrade Jong.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Is it time to make a big move?

Have no interest in the shoe maker, he is ordinary. I'm in the get the McCartin or Wright camp.

Hawthorn would be very happy to hand pass the shoe maker. He's a woeful decision maker. Reid is not going anywhere.