Following our exes...................

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  • EasternWest
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2009
    • 9993

    Re: Following our exes...................

    Originally posted by ledge
    Let’s give a huge hooray and hand to our one and only Tom Campbell . The most loved guy at the bulldogs who has continued to shine with a contract coming at Melbourne , amazing fete.
    Just when you thought he was riding off into and sunset he pops up again like Clint Eastwood in a western.
    Impossible not to admire
    "It's over. It's all over."

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66072

      Re: Following our exes...................

      Melbourne’s head of leadership Jim Plunkett has departed the club after eight years with the Demons.
      FFC: Established 1883

      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • The Adelaide Connection
        Coaching Staff
        • Jan 2009
        • 2739

        Re: Following our exes...................

        Originally posted by bornadog
        Melbourne’s head of leadership Jim Plunkett has departed the club after eight years with the Demons.
        Is this an old story? Did he actually leave four years ago and they are just realising now?

        Or was he just terrible at his job?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66072

          Re: Following our exes...................

          Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
          Is this an old story? Did he actually leave four years ago and they are just realising now?

          Or was he just terrible at his job?
          Sounds like a fail, doesn't it
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5568

            Re: Following our exes...................

            Originally posted by The Adelaide Connection
            Is this an old story? Did he actually leave four years ago and they are just realising now?

            Or was he just terrible at his job?
            Hey hey hey Jim Plunkett created the best culture Gary Pert has ever seen! Give the man some credit!

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            • josie
              Coaching Staff
              • Oct 2012
              • 4397

              Re: Following our exes...................

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Melbourne’s head of leadership Jim Plunkett has departed the club after eight years with the Demons.
              Avagoodweegend, Mr. Plunkett.
              Josie :)

              Our day will come
              And we'll have everything.
              We'll share the joy
              Just like '54 again.

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21577

                Re: Following our exes...................

                Good enough to get them to a flag, bad enough (and innocuous enough) to take the fall.

                Just another bit of cannon fodder to sacrifice to keep the real pieces of shit safe. You know, the players, the coaches, the executives.......let's just blame Jimmy Plunkett.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • ledge
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 14113

                  Re: Following our exes...................

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  Good enough to get them to a flag, bad enough (and innocuous enough) to take the fall.

                  Just another bit of cannon fodder to sacrifice to keep the real pieces of shit safe. You know, the players, the coaches, the executives.......let's just blame Jimmy Plunkett.
                  Was he sacked or left on his own accord? 8 years is a long time at a club doing the same thing?
                  I would think 8 years is a sign he was good at his job.
                  Bring back the biff

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                  • jeemak
                    Bulldog Legend
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 21577

                    Re: Following our exes...................

                    Originally posted by ledge
                    Was he sacked or left on his own accord? 8 years is a long time at a club doing the same thing?
                    I would think 8 years is a sign he was good at his job.
                    Probably a bit of both based on them reviewing the machinations at the club, and him being the one with the title. Apparently he's going off to do his own thing.
                    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10986

                      Re: Following our exes...................

                      EFNL 2024: Ex-AFL forward Josh Schache signs at Doncaster East

                      Defenders in the Eastern league?s Premier Division are set to have their hands full with Doncaster East?s latest addition.

                      Former AFL forward Josh Schache has signed at the Lions for next season after his 76-game career in the big-time came to a close.

                      The 199cm talent was taken by the Brisbane Lions with pick No. 2 in the 2015 national draft before stops at the Western Bulldogs and Melbourne, kicking 79 goals.

                      He was delisted from the Demons at the end of this season after just four matches.

                      Now 27, the ex-Murray Bushranger links with former Bulldogs teammate Tim O?Brien at Zerbes Reserve.

                      ?They?re good mates and he?s also got a connection through one of our other players,? Doncaster East president Peter Sowersby said.

                      ?It?s probably been a five-week process since he got delisted.

                      ?He was pretty keen to get on the front foot and speak to us about playing.?

                      Sowersby said Schache would fill a key post in attack ? freeing up O?Brien who played as a focal point this season, kicking 37 goals in 14 matches.

                      ?It will give (senior coach) Ryan (James) more flexibility with him (O?Brien), obviously,? he said.

                      ?He?s a man-mountain, Josh, he?s 199cm so that?s going to help ? last year with injury, Tim had two to three on him, so it?s definitely going to help us in that sense.?

                      Doncaster East missed the finals this season with a 5-13 record amid a horror run with injury, with the president hopeful his club?s prized recruit can help it climb the ladder.

                      The Lions, who also have ex-AFL men Josh Deluca and Taylin Duman on their books, have re-signed more than 45 of their current list for next season.

                      ?He?s (Schache) just turned 27 so he?s the perfect age for local footy,? Sowersby said.

                      ?Hopefully Josh gets us back into the finals ? you look at someone like South Croydon last year, they almost got relegated and (this year) won a final.?

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14113

                        Re: Following our exes...................

                        76 games in 9 years and three clubs . Thats a pretty low return for a pick 2 .
                        I wonder how the recruiters got it so wrong ? Including ours.
                        My summation is his personality wasn’t hard enough, no doubt he had ability and trained well but just didn’t have it.
                        You would think recruiters would pick that up.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • angelopetraglia
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 6782

                          Re: Following our exes...................

                          Josh Schache
                          Murray Bushrangers
                          Height: 199 cm
                          Weight: 96 kg
                          Position: Key forward
                          Strengths: Marking, endurance, good at ground level for his size.
                          Weaknesses: Speed
                          First year impact: May play 10-15 games
                          Player comparison: Tom Lynch (Gold Coast)

                          Kicking: Above average
                          Marking: Elite
                          Speed: Poor
                          Endurance: Above average

                          Schache is one of two players being thrown around as a potential number one pick and is clearly the best key forward prospect in this year’s draft. He has a number of attributes which will have recruiters licking their lips and has few weaknesses.

                          From the moment Schache burst onto the scene, just days after his sixteenth birthday, kicking four goals in his second TAC Cup game for the Bushrangers, it was clear that he was going to be an excellent prospect. His marking has been his biggest strength throughout his junior career, pulling down two contested marks on this day against bigger and stronger opponents, while his endurance and ability to pick up the ball cleanly below his knees were qualities that stood out as being better than the rest of the key forward pack.

                          His marking is fantastic, as he uses his massive arms to reach up and take the ball at its highest point. This makes it near on impossible for a defender to spoil the ball or stop him from marking the ball without impeding him, as fellow top prospect Aaron Francis found out at the national championships. His ability to continually reach higher than his opponent more than cancels out his lack of speed while he is very good at positioning his 96 kg frame in a way that protects the drop of the ball and allows him to take marks with relative ease.

                          Part of what makes Schache a good forward is that when he gets an opportunity to kick a goal he almost always delivers. He has a really relaxed set shot goal kicking style and as a result he tends to kick goals than he misses. Even from an angle or from distance his uncomplicated action tends to get the job done.

                          One of my early knocks on Schache was that he was lazy and had a poor workrate, which didn’t make sense considering his excellent endurance. However I’ve come to realise that he was not lazy but being the number one target, and a very good one at that, tended to get the ball kicked to him first time without needing to extend himself on multiple leads. Now he has shown an ability to outrun his opponent, working hard inside 50 to burn off his opponent.

                          While he is able to continue running, Schache is not very fast. He is quite slow off the mark and if it wasn’t for his big frame he would struggle against most defenders. He also has quite a large turning circle, indicating that his agility is not quite up to scratch. This could be because of his size and perhaps it isn’t a massive problem considering other big bodied forwards in the AFL don’t tend to have top level speed but it does stand out as his most glaring weakness.

                          Schache is very good at ground level for his size. It is rare to see such a big man with the ability to pick up half volleys off his bootlaces and fire out handballs all in one fluent motion but Schache can do that. He also has quite good vision and decision making skills. Many big forwards are quite selfish and would wheel around and kick for goal but Schache tends to look for a better option and has the foot skills to hit his targets. While it isn’t a strength of his, he is a neat enough kick to get by and it certainly isn’t a weakness by AFL standards.

                          Schache has proved this year to be the best key forward in the draft and has silenced doubters with his performances over the year. He is likely to land at a club looking for youth and particularly talls and as a result he could have a Joe Daniher like impact, getting a handful of games in his first year and likely making a reasonable fist of it as a centre half forward or full forward.

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6782

                            Re: Following our exes...................

                            One example above.

                            I read a few other draft profiles. No one picked up on the number one thing that has held him back, which is just a deep hunger to compete and embrace the physicality of the game. That is the key thing that held him back.

                            "is marking has been his biggest strength throughout his junior career, pulling down two contested marks on this day against bigger and stronger opponents" - We never saw that at the AFL level.

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 18879

                              Re: Following our exes...................

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              76 games in 9 years and three clubs . Thats a pretty low return for a pick 2 .
                              I wonder how the recruiters got it so wrong ? Including ours.
                              My summation is his personality wasn?t hard enough, no doubt he had ability and trained well but just didn?t have it.
                              You would think recruiters would pick that up.
                              They wanted country kids at the Lions after others left.

                              I think Josh being from Seymour may have confirmed their bias and elevated him, although I assume others had him high too. But that's always been my gut feel with that one.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11121

                                Re: Following our exes...................

                                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                                One example above.

                                I read a few other draft profiles. No one picked up on the number one thing that has held him back, which is just a deep hunger to compete and embrace the physicality of the game. That is the key thing that held him back.

                                "is marking has been his biggest strength throughout his junior career, pulling down two contested marks on this day against bigger and stronger opponents" - We never saw that at the AFL level.
                                That hasn't stopped some on our list getting recent 5 year contract extensions (albeit not on their terms)

                                Schache was almost a premiership CHB. Hannan and Roarke Smith were almost premiership players. Bevo performed some real voodoo shit in 2021.
                                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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