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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65579

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by JanLorMill
    We made finals without him the year before. Without Dunkley, we could rucked have Bruce or Naughton part time or play Sweet with English forward. What was the plan for Darcy this year as well? When he played it was forward. Plenty of cheap backup rucks still available now.

    Recruiting Lobb was a stupid idea then and still now. The problem was never we don?t have a second ruck, it was English can?t ruck for the full game.
    The bagging Bevo got when Dunkley, Hannan, and even Bont rucked is all but forgotten.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • Bulldog Joe
      Premiership Moderator
      • Jul 2009
      • 5433

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by bornadog
      The bagging Bevo got when Dunkley, Hannan, and even Bont rucked is all but forgotten.
      The bagging is not really forgotten and would come quickly back if any of those tactics are revived.
      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 65579

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        The bagging is not really forgotten and would come quickly back if any of those tactics are revived.
        I should say conveniently forgotten. Something had to be done, and the club chose Lobb.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • JanLorMill
          Senior Player
          • Feb 2023
          • 1548

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by bornadog
          The bagging Bevo got when Dunkley, Hannan, and even Bont rucked is all but forgotten.
          If it worked the bagging means nothing. Worse bagging when we missed finals.

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          • Danjul
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 1597

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by bornadog
            The bagging Bevo got when Dunkley, Hannan, and even Bont rucked is all but forgotten.
            But the tactical failure that undermined the window of opportunity is still raw and won?t be forgotten.

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            • JanLorMill
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2023
              • 1548

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
              The bagging is not really forgotten and would come quickly back if any of those tactics are revived.
              I couldn’t give a stuff if we rucked Caleb Daniel all game as long as we won.

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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6422

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                I couldn’t give a stuff if we rucked Caleb Daniel all game as long as we won.
                We could try a Zen approach, with no nominated ruckman and an extra midfielder.

                However, I'm not sure this is a good idea.
                The fight is here; I need ammunition, not a ride.

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                • Twodogs
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27645

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  Originally posted by Dry Rot
                  We could try a Zen approach, with no nominated ruckman and an extra midfielder.

                  However, I'm not sure this is a good idea.
                  It might work.

                  Chanting "Om Mani Padme Hum” is supposed to mend broken hearts"
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Grantysghost
                    Bouncing Strong
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 18717

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    DOGS' ACADEMY PROSPECT KEEN TO JOIN
                    PLENTY has been made of the Western Bulldogs' father-son prospect Jordan Croft heading to the club at this year's draft, but the Dogs also have access to an exciting half-back through their Next Generation Academy.

                    Luamon Lual, an attacking, rebounding defender from the Greater Western Victoria Rebels, is tied to the Bulldogs' NGA with the Vic Country talent's parents both born in South Sudan before coming to Australia.

                    Under NGA rules, the Bulldogs will be able to match a bid for the speedy defender if he is still available after pick No.40, with his draft range expected to start in the second round. He spoke with the club at the Draft Combine and is keen to get to Whitten Oval.

                    "I'd love to go to the Dogs, I obviously have a soft spot for them. But the opportunity to be in the AFL system is a dream and I'd be happy to go anywhere. But I'd love to go to the Dogs," Lual told AFL.com.au.


                    Luamon Lual celebrates a goal for Vic County against Vic Metro on July 16, 2023. Picture: AFL Photos
                    "I caught up with them earlier in the year and they said they'd catch up later in the year. I'm interested in going anywhere and will take that opportunity when it comes."

                    Lual, who ran the 20-metre sprint in 3.05 seconds at the Draft Combine and 6:20 for the 2km time trial, trained with the Dogs as part of his NGA program in the pre-season and said he had taken plenty from the experience.

                    "Having the opportunity to train with the Doggies really gave me great motivation to be the best player I can be for the rest of the season. After seeing what they do and how they go about it, I tried to implement those things into my year and I was happy with how it went," he said.

                    "As a backman, I had a bit to do with Bailey Dale and was able to see how he works on his skills pre and post-training. I got a 15-minute burst in the match simulation and it was a fast game. It was a crazy experience." ? Callum Twomey
                    BT COME BACK!​

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Would be nice to see him slide, but not sure that happens.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5439

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        When will our first live pick post Croft be?

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by jazzadogs
                          When will our first live pick post Croft be?
                          Somewhere around 70 I’d think, unless he slides a bit.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65579

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Expecting Paddy Dow and Nick Coffield to be involved in a three or four-club trade. Likely to go down in next 24 hours. - Mitch Cleary
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                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15098

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Somewhere around 70 I?d think, unless he slides a bit.
                              Sorry BT and I?m sure you have answered it but what other picks do we need to get in the door if Lual slides to mid 40?s?

                              I guessing we don?t want to go into deficit in next years draft.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                Sorry BT and I?m sure you have answered it but what other picks do we need to get in the door if Lual slides to mid 40?s?

                                I guessing we don?t want to go into deficit in next years draft.
                                Say Lual is Pick 46:

                                331 points needed gross
                                197 point discount

                                134 points needed net

                                I think based on the conjecture for our Pick 40/Coffield & Sweet we can take Croft at 10 without deficit. If he was to go at 12, we’d have 101 spare draft points. So merely Croft going 12-13 or later frees up points. We could live trade also. But because he has to get passed 40 and discount on him, he’s not an expensive acquisition. If we could get 41 from Port and not 49 even giving them back 72 to get those extra points that’s help too. I wouldn’t worry too much here, first thing is he needs to slide enough.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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