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  • The Pie Man
    Coaching Staff
    • May 2008
    • 3497

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by Rocket Science
    This is great. Over to you Rory because I would be respectful AF ...

    After the way he finished the year (not just against Geelong) you still feel like this?

    Consider our other 2R/FWD option was injured for much of the year and just isn’t ready, I don’t get the continued angst.

    If we return to winning ways, he’ll play his part. We’re wedded to Tim as (AA) first ruck, so we should back him in.
    Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 7609

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      End of first round pick confirmed for Gresham deal.

      I don't know what's worse. The compensation system or essendon.

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      • Rocket Science
        Coaching Staff
        • Oct 2007
        • 4840

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by The Pie Man
        After the way he finished the year (not just against Geelong) you still feel like this?

        Consider our other 2R/FWD option was injured for much of the year and just isn?t ready, I don?t get the continued angst.

        If we return to winning ways, he?ll play his part. We?re wedded to Tim as (AA) first ruck, so we should back him in.
        Call me demanding but I suppose I feel that any perceived structural needs he might fulfil on paper hinge on him playing more than one, or two serviceable games a year, and actually being selected, full stop.

        Plus, there's the not insignificant matter of his head.

        Yuge year looms for Lobb to restore some credibility and repay some faith but I'm just not sure he's wired to respond that way and we'll get another year of Rory being Rory.
        BORDERLINE FLYING

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        • Twodogs
          Administrator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27645

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Rocket Science
          Call me demanding but I suppose I feel that any perceived structural needs he might fulfil on paper hinge on him playing more than one, or two serviceable games a year, and actually being selected, full stop.

          Plus, there's the not insignificant matter of his head.

          Yuge year looms for Lobb to restore some credibility and repay some faith but I'm just not sure he's wired to respond that way and we'll get another year of Rory being Rory.
          It's certainly an interesting head. That's for sure.

          Imagine if, in the Godfather, rather than a horse's head that the bloke woke up next to he woke up to Rory's head in the bed next to him. That would have been awesome.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Dancin' Douggy
            WOOF Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 2877

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            This is pretty much my thinking exactly.
            Originally posted by Rocket Science
            Call me demanding but I suppose I feel that any perceived structural needs he might fulfil on paper hinge on him playing more than one, or two serviceable games a year, and actually being selected, full stop.

            Plus, there's the not insignificant matter of his head.

            Yuge year looms for Lobb to restore some credibility and repay some faith but I'm just not sure he's wired to respond that way and we'll get another year of Rory being Rory.

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            • The Adelaide Connection
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2009
              • 2703

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
              End of first round pick confirmed for Gresham deal.

              I don't know what's worse. The compensation system or essendon.
              Watching Essendon burn cap space this trade period is therapeutic.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13117

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Dodoro and Scott is a match made in heaven. They've gone back to the old ways. Great to see.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  They paid Gresham $700,000 a season. McKay $800,000. Whatever for Goldy & Duursma won’t be cheap. Probably over $2M a season combined added to their cap.

                  FMD.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • ReLoad
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1426

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    They paid Gresham $700,000 a season. McKay $800,000. Whatever for Goldy & Duursma won’t be cheap. Probably over $2M a season combined added to their cap.

                    FMD.
                    Its awesome, none of those players will even get close to them winning any more games.

                    May the ineptitude flow eternally!

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7457

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by Rocket Science
                      Yuge year looms for Lobb to restore some credibility and repay some faith but I'm just not sure he's wired to respond that way and we'll get another year of Rory being Rory.
                      He has had 1, maybe 2 really good consistent years in his 10 year career so the odds certainly aren't in our favour.

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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5433

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        You know I shouldn't be surprised if it turns out they have someone manually enter all the data every time they need to run the calculation.
                        That would require them to have an actual formula.

                        What is the point of entering data when clearly they need to DECIDE the compensation.
                        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                        • bulldogsthru&thru
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • May 2011
                          • 7609

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                          That would require them to have an actual formula.

                          What is the point of entering data when clearly they need to DECIDE the compensation.
                          Maybe they play pluck-a-duck.

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                          • Bulldog Joe
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 5433

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                            End of first round pick confirmed for Gresham deal.

                            I don't know what's worse. The compensation system or essendon.
                            The compensation system is designed to give outcomes that the AFL consider appropriate. It is achieved by not really having a system.

                            This year
                            North Melbourne are encouraged to accept FA compensation for McKay.
                            St Kilda want end of first round for Gresham or they will force Essendon to trade.

                            AFL want to help both North Melbourne and Essendon become more competitive so facilitate both players getting to Essendon by effectively having every club drop down the draft board.

                            The compensation picks are way above what any club would pay if they were trading them in.

                            If the AFL won't publish a formula for how this is calculated they just need to cease compensation altogether.
                            Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 7609

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              They paid Gresham $700,000 a season. McKay $800,000. Whatever for Goldy & Duursma won?t be cheap. Probably over $2M a season combined added to their cap.

                              FMD.
                              Plus they voluntarily pushed their own first round pick back 1 spot!

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                              • Rocco Jones
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 6920

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                                The compensation system is designed to give outcomes that the AFL consider appropriate. It is achieved by not really having a system.

                                This year
                                North Melbourne are encouraged to accept FA compensation for McKay.
                                St Kilda want end of first round for Gresham or they will force Essendon to trade.

                                AFL want to help both North Melbourne and Essendon become more competitive so facilitate both players getting to Essendon by effectively having every club drop down the draft board.

                                The compensation picks are way above what any club would pay if they were trading them in.

                                If the AFL won't publish a formula for how this is calculated they just need to cease compensation altogether.
                                This would sound like a wacky conspiracy theory if it wasn't the AFL and completely true.

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