Early Trade Rumours 2023

[G-Mo77]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

Let him go have a crack at making it, it’s not with us for whatever the reason (Sugar Free Zone post). So go with our blessing.

But we need to find a mature option if anything happened to Tim. So we need to add this to our trade list. The question is a fringe back up, some old dude, a state leaguer or a bonafide ruckman?

Yes we will need a backup, Fort would be handy.

[jeemak]

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If Sweet goes anywhere it'll likely just be for more money to do the same thing he's doing for us. Good luck to him.

[macca]

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Yes we will need a backup, Fort would be handy.

Darcy Fort is a very interesting player. Played in VFL for years, from reading it sounds he did not have Tank. Left Geelong and finally has found a place at Brisbane. Don't know if its the warm weather, but Brisbane seem to be able to get good output from Journeymen like him.

Lincon McCarthy, Lyon and Robertson( until he retired) are some examples.

[GVGjr]

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Darcy Fort is a very interesting player. Played in VFL for years, from reading it sounds he did not have Tank. Left Geelong and finally has found a place at Brisbane. Don't know if its the warm weather, but Brisbane seem to be able to get good output from Journeymen like him.

Lincon McCarthy, Lyon and Robertson( until he retired) are some examples.

They've used him as a sub a few times in the last two years which is strange. I can understand why Port might be interested.

[Axe Man]

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Every year there is a merry-go-round of second and third choice ruckmen swapping clubs from more opportunity because there just aren't many spots for rucks at AFL level. Fair enough Sweet wants to try his luck elsewhere and we are going to have to grab one from somewhere to replace him if he does leave.

[Bornadog]

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Every year there is a merry-go-round of second and third choice ruckmen swapping clubs from more opportunity because there just aren't many spots for rucks at AFL level. Fair enough Sweet wants to try his luck elsewhere and we are going to have to grab one from somewhere to replace him if he does leave.

I would prefer we look for a young developing ruck, rather than a hasbeen.

[hujsh]

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I would prefer we look for a young developing ruck, rather than a hasbeen.

Need both. Someone with potential in case English leaves or gets injured or gets old or whatever and someone as backup for the now. Lobb works as a break glass option

[G-Mo77]

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Need both. Someone with potential in case English leaves or gets injured or gets old or whatever and someone as backup for the now. Lobb works as a break glass option

Yeah, agree here. Assuming Tim stays long term we'll need a good backup, someone who is willing to sit at VFL until an opportunity arises while the other works on their craft. Get Tommy Campbell back!

Does anyone think Darcy could be moulded into a ruck option?

[mjp]

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They've used him as a sub a few times in the last two years which is strange. I can understand why Port might be interested.

Well...it is, but at the same time:

- If you go in with ONE ruck + a designated backup, well...that's OK. Unless that 'one' ruck gets injured and your 'designated backup' is not someone who you would be prepared to have ruck for the rest of the game. In that case, you might be prepared to nominate your SUB as a ruck and:
1/. That means you have a full 'book' of 22 players available for rotations UNLESS there is an injury.
2/. If the ONE injury that worries you happens, you DO have a viable ruck option who can take over and carry the load.

Would I do it? Probs not. But there is some logic in there that you could back up the decision with.

What is the Lions plan should Oscar go down? Daniher rucks the game out? Well - he's likely to break if they do that which will have season long implications...so I guess their plan is:

Oscar rucks with 5-mins per q from JD.
- If either of the above are injured, the sub (Fort) provides great cover.
- If another injury occurs, Daniher becomes a permanent forward and Fort provides ruck support from the bench with maybe 1x stint forward to give Daniher a rest each quarter.
- If there are ANY other injuries, they back themselves to be flexible with rotations and hold. After all, Dunks told us how fit they all are so maybe that's a SNAP!

[GVGjr]

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I would prefer we look for a young developing ruck, rather than a hasbeen.

If we have learned anything from our investment in English it's going to take years to develop a player. We also need to acknowledge that getting someone like Martin 2 years late was not ideal either.
If we are to lose Sweet we are at the point where we need both a short term solution and then a longer term investment.
Sadly we might just take the short term option.

[ledge]

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If we have learned anything from our investment in English it's going to take years to develop a player. We also need to acknowledge that getting someone like Martin 2 years late was not ideal either.
If we are to lose Sweet we are at the point where we need both a short term solution and then a longer term investment.
Sadly we might just take the short term option.

Remember we do have Darcy and Croft who at over 200cm could be trained to be ruckman . Darcy was doing a bit of it in the twos .

[jeemak]

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The club has talked about Darcy likely being a forward ruck.

We have Lobb for two more years.

I think we need to look at someone roughly of the same age to replace Sweet if he leaves and find someone to develop on the rookie/ supplementary lists.

[Vred]

Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

-Dogs are in the hunt for Barrass, as are Sydney, he is gettable for the right price, WCE want first round picks and are happy to sell the farm to get them.
-Dogs showing interest in Jack Ginnivan, disgruntled with lack of opp at Collingwood since Bobby came in.
-Dogs showing interest in Sam Flanders, wants more midfield opportunity, GCS need points and list spots.
-Liam Henry 90% coming to us, turns out we've been in his ear since the start of the season.

Doedee is all but signed with Geelong at this point, waiting for season to be over to make it official, don't be surprised if his the first trade of the trade period.

We either need to start playing Cleary in the Duryea role or we need to find another developed and season small lockdown defender, cannot go into next season with just Duryea in that role.

[EasternWest]

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Thanks Vred top shelf stuff.

[Grantysghost]

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-Dogs are in the hunt for Barrass, as are Sydney, he is gettable for the right price, WCE want first round picks and are happy to sell the farm to get them.
-Dogs showing interest in Jack Ginnivan, disgruntled with lack of opp at Collingwood since Bobby came in.
-Dogs showing interest in Sam Flanders, wants more midfield opportunity, GCS need points and list spots.
-Liam Henry 90% coming to us, turns out we've been in his ear since the start of the season.

Doedee is all but signed with Geelong at this point, waiting for season to be over to make it official, don't be surprised if his the first trade of the trade period.

We either need to start playing Cleary in the Duryea role or we need to find another developed and season small lockdown defender, cannot go into next season with just Duryea in that role.

I'd be happy with all that!

Barrass #1 if I could choose.