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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14029

    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

    Originally posted by chef
    Losing Dunkley, Hunter, Treloar and probs Smith in the space of 12 months while Macrae and Libba are coming to the end.

    And we don't have any young mids to take their place. We're ****ed.
    Maybe that’s our target in the draft this year .
    Maybe we are looking at trading two in from other clubs .
    This is the year we need to do it so they get a year or two preseasons in before Libba retires.
    Bring back the biff

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

      Originally posted by chef
      Losing Dunkley, Hunter, Treloar and probs Smith in the space of 12 months while Macrae and Libba are coming to the end.

      And we don't have any young mids to take their place. We're ****ed.
      Then go all in, do English too, and try to get 3 or 4 top 10 picks and Croft. Will suck to be us for a while, but if those four or five kids are jets the pay off is there. With young’s talls looking good with these kids.

      Or just plod on like the club seems to think.
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14797

        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

        Originally posted by chef
        Losing Dunkley, Hunter, Treloar and probs Smith in the space of 12 months while Macrae and Libba are coming to the end.

        And we don't have any young mids to take their place. We're ****ed.
        If we lose Treloar we absolutely should keep Smith.
        He has flaws, but workrate and the ability to cover ground is absolutely not one of them and we need that.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34316

          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

          Originally posted by Mofra
          If we lose Treloar we absolutely should keep Smith.
          He has flaws, but workrate and the ability to cover ground is absolutely not one of them and we need that.
          Well we have Macrae got another 19 years so he moves back on ball at his walking pace of movement.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11732

            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

            Originally posted by Mofra
            If we lose Treloar we absolutely should keep Smith.
            He has flaws, but workrate and the ability to cover ground is absolutely not one of them and we need that.
            Gives Smith a centre square gig. If he can play a role like he did against Carlton (feels a big if right now haven't seen that since) then he can be a major contributor without having amazing disposal
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34316

              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

              Originally posted by hujsh
              Gives Smith a centre square gig. If he can play a role like he did against Carlton (feels a big if right now haven't seen that since) then he can be a major contributor without having amazing disposal
              He could be the worst kick in the comp for midfielders in his purportedly class (ie not fringe state leaguers promoted due to injury). He’s truly terrible. I wouldn’t bother leading to him. If he has it we need to employ a forward pocket as bank stop to shiver is leading do they have a chance to mark in when it sails over the forward on the lead. If he wasn’t famous, he’d be copping more heat for his inability to the basics. I’ll take the pick 10 now if Geelong offers it.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • Boots
                Rookie List
                • Nov 2020
                • 422

                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                Originally posted by Vred
                Told to me this morning from a Collingwood recruiter.
                Montagna mentioned it in passing on First Crack too - seems to be doing the rounds.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                  If Treloar get us Four, I’m listening.

                  If he doesn’t want to be here, if we can do a points deal to get us close to Pick 4 and swap Treloar with wages for a younger good player is what gets us the deal, I’m coming around. There was a story a while back they had a KPD on a long contract that some woofers liked. Maybe that’s part of it.

                  I don’t want to lose him. But if he wants out to QLD then maybe it’s for the best if their desire for him and our desire for Pick 4 can have a common ground. Just have to be pragmatic when Shocktober hits.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9873

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                    I don't care. If he wants to go, he can go. Bring in more picks.and hit the draft.

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                    • macca
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 2350

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      I don't care. If he wants to go, he can go. Bring in more picks.and hit the draft.
                      Yep, we should look at rebuilding now with what currency we have .Its going to be a few tough years, but look at where Hawthorn is rising. They traded out Tom Mitchell, Omera, Gunstan and McEvoy.
                      The lack of young strong mids coming through is going to leave us bare when Libba and Bonts retire.

                      I am truly concerned none of our young players are banging on the door of selection for various reasons mentioned in other threads.

                      Treloar played a good game on Saturday. He would be a big loss if we lose him, but we need to find a replacement for him.The only player I would consider playing was Lipinksi, Lipinski was no where near his league. so we did the right thing to trade him out.

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14797

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                        Originally posted by macca
                        Treloar played a good game on Saturday. He would be a big loss if we lose him, but we need to find a replacement for him.The only player I would consider playing was Lipinksi, Lipinski was no where near his league. so we did the right thing to trade him out.
                        Isn't Bailey Smith the closest thing we have to Treloar?

                        I'm not sure Gold Coast have the cap to go chasing big fish anyway, especially with whatever they pay Dusty next year. Let's not forget the Bowes disaster of last year.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          Isn't Bailey Smith the closest thing we have to Treloar?

                          I'm not sure Gold Coast have the cap to go chasing big fish anyway, especially with whatever they pay Dusty next year. Let's not forget the Bowes disaster of last year.
                          If the trade includes Pick 4 and perhaps includes a player back (beyond the DP trade) I’d pay some salary along with Collingwood if it meant Pick 4 & some player to be determined.

                          If every club wants their Pick 4 and we have something they actually want back. That’s interesting at a minimum.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14797

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            If the trade includes Pick 4 and perhaps includes a player back (beyond the DP trade) I’d pay some salary along with Collingwood if it meant Pick 4 & some player to be determined.

                            If every club wants their Pick 4 and we have something they actually want back. That’s interesting at a minimum.
                            I'd assume we have to offer picks back too given the 3 academy kids.

                            I really rate Jed Walter so I don't think trading ahead of a bid is an option for them. Some recruiters have him ahead of Reid.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              I'd assume we have to offer picks back too given the 3 academy kids.

                              I really rate Jed Walter so I don't think trading ahead of a bid is an option for them. Some recruiters have him ahead of Reid.
                              Yep. Still a draft points trade for them. But the deal sealer to beat out other clubs is Treloar with salary paid. Who was the young KPD you liked of their on a long contract not getting a game?
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15122

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours 2023

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Yep. Still a draft points trade for them. But the deal sealer to beat out other clubs is Treloar with salary paid. Who was the young KPD you liked of their on a long contract not getting a game?
                                BT, is your favourite movie Draft Day with Kevin Costner?
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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