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  • Cyberdoggie
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2859

    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

    If he came back this year there is no way he would be at his best and i wouldn't replace anyone with him.
    If he does his knee again we get nothing for him, he's as good as worthless.

    Instead his value right now is based on the myth that he's a good player from years passed.

    Let's trade him for first round pick, if Geelong want to play hard ball, then there is Hawthorn as well, so they will have to.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 65874

      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

      Originally posted by MrMahatma
      Where would he play and who would he replace?.
      Garcia

      Originally posted by MrMahatma
      not sure that there's real upside in risking re-injury
      I don't get people talking about risking injury? He should only play if he is passed fit and in form with a couple of games? There is risk in playing any players and should not be a consideration.

      Originally posted by MrMahatma
      I can't seem him being the difference maker in a big final (and yes, I do remember 2021).
      If we can get a Premiership, why not - he is another mid we can use
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      • jazzadogs
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Oct 2008
        • 5538

        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

        Unless he is a horribly toxic influence (which I'm not discounting), and even accepting that he will definitely not be playing, he should be completing training with the rest of the playing group/rehab group.

        He posted a video of him doing ball work, change of direction/agility, high speed activities. It's f***ing ridiculous that he's not doing that with his teammates when he's still getting paid.

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65874

          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

          Originally posted by jazzadogs
          Unless he is a horribly toxic influence (which I'm not discounting), and even accepting that he will definitely not be playing, he should be completing training with the rest of the playing group/rehab group.

          He posted a video of him doing ball work, change of direction/agility, high speed activities. It's f***ing ridiculous that he's not doing that with his teammates when he's still getting paid.
          agree
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          • MrMahatma
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 3965

            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

            Originally posted by bornadog


            I don't get people talking about risking injury? He should only play if he is passed fit and in form with a couple of games? There is risk in playing any players and should not be a consideration.
            No other players are coming off a knee and wanting to be traded (and worth a good pick). The downside is big with him.

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            • angelopetraglia
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2008
              • 6761

              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

              Bevo on Bailey Smith.

              "When a player has not told you that they are staying, as time goes on your confidence levels begin to wane"

              "I have got a great relationship with Bailey, it is a not concern of mine that I need to fix something that isn't an issue. But there is always some levers you can pull, the intentions and what the possibilities are for the player, they can never be black and white for the club they are playing at as we are not privy to the conversations that are going on".

              Sounded like he has not completely given up that he will leave, but is resigned to the fact that it will most likely happen.

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              • ReLoad
                Senior Player
                • Sep 2009
                • 1442

                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                Bevo on Bailey Smith.

                "When a player has not told you that they are staying, as time goes on your confidence levels begin to wane"

                "I have got a great relationship with Bailey, it is a not concern of mine that I need to fix something that isn't an issue. But there is always some levers you can pull, the intentions and what the possibilities are for the player, they can never be black and white for the club they are playing at as we are not privy to the conversations that are going on".

                Sounded like he has not completely given up that he will leave, but is resigned to the fact that it will most likely happen.
                Its farcical to think he isnt.

                Any kind of contract negotiation (non football included) if you table a contract and the other party says "we will get back to you in a year" means they are not signing it. There is ZERO reason for bailey smith to not be negotiating and signing if he has any intention of staying.

                I think he's mad to not sign and be a part of what our list looks like.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65874

                  Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                  Originally posted by angelopetraglia
                  Bevo on Bailey Smith.

                  "When a player has not told you that they are staying, as time goes on your confidence levels begin to wane"

                  "I have got a great relationship with Bailey, it is a not concern of mine that I need to fix something that isn't an issue. But there is always some levers you can pull, the intentions and what the possibilities are for the player, they can never be black and white for the club they are playing at as we are not privy to the conversations that are going on".

                  Sounded like he has not completely given up that he will leave, but is resigned to the fact that it will most likely happen.
                  Previously Bevo has said he doesn't interfere with negotiations and leaves it up to Power. Maybe if he wants Smith to stay, he should meet him for a coffee.
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                  • Happy Days
                    Hall of Fame
                    • May 2008
                    • 10062

                    Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                    Bro it’s round 23 our season is on the line every week and he’s on the damn Gold Coast. He’s gone and he’s a terrible teammate.
                    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                    • bulldogsthru&thru
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • May 2011
                      • 7682

                      Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                      I don't think there's even 1% of Bailey that wants to stay.

                      It's been said Liam Jones is a true Bulldog. Well, Bailey Smith is the exact opposite. He just never was a fit for our club.

                      Of the 4 major contract signings, Bailey was always at the bottom of the pecking order for me. He was the one I was happy to let go. Power has done a great job. Now it's time to convert the Smith capital into something more valuable to US.

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15279

                        Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Bro it’s round 23 our season is on the line every week and he’s on the damn Gold Coast. He’s gone and he’s a terrible teammate.
                        It?s a horrible look that he?s pretty much deserted his teammates.

                        It?s all about brand Bailey.

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                        • JanLorMill
                          WOOF Member
                          • Feb 2023
                          • 1598

                          Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                          I don't think there's even 1% of Bailey that wants to stay.

                          It's been said Liam Jones is a true Bulldog. Well, Bailey Smith is the exact opposite. He just never was a fit for our club.

                          Of the 4 major contract signings, Bailey was always at the bottom of the pecking order for me. He was the one I was happy to let go. Power has done a great job. Now it's time to convert the Smith capital into something more valuable to US.
                          If you made up a name for a bulldog player it would be Bailey Smith. Now it’s Riley Williams

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                          • Grantysghost
                            Bouncing Strong
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 18824

                            Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                            It's a sad situation with Bailey.

                            If you were Geelong, would you be thinking this guy may not be a great fit for our team? I mean he's not exactly an endearing type unless you're a teenager.

                            Interesting that Bevo commented at all, that says a lot to me about the frustration levels internally.
                            BT COME BACK!​

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65874

                              Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                              Originally posted by Grantysghost
                              It's a sad situation with Bailey.

                              If you were Geelong, would you be thinking this guy may not be a great fit for our team? I mean he's not exactly an endearing type unless you're a teenager.

                              Interesting that Bevo commented at all, that says a lot to me about the frustration levels internally.
                              He was asked a question on Bailey in the press Conference this morning and felt obliged to answer
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                              • ReLoad
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 1442

                                Re: Welcome to the Bulldogs: Bailey Smith

                                Do we think his year out has had any influence in his decision to leave?

                                I.e. would it be different if he was playing?

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