Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

DJ has a year left.

I would try and keep Shaggy around. His versatility really helps us out IMO.

Really don't see much value in us trading Hill at this stage. When I think of who to trade out I want perceived current value > actual potential. Hill doesn't fit that.

Perhaps we can do something like trading multiple picks of an upgraded selection.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

DJ has a year left.

I would try and keep Shaggy around. His versatility really helps us out IMO.

Really don't see much value in us trading Hill at this stage. When I think of who to trade out I want perceived current value > actual potential. Hill doesn't fit that.

Perhaps we can do something like trading multiple picks of an upgraded selection.

I have heard that Hargrave might give it away, that his body isn't holding up too well.


I think it was a mistake activating the Sam Reid pick.

What if no-one bids for Hunter? We could then pick him up with our last pick and not even use th Reid compo pick.

Mulligan, Hooper, Gilbee, Hargrave, Moles, Skinner and Panos

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I have heard that Hargrave might give it away, that his body isn't holding up too well.


I think it was a mistake activating the Sam Reid pick.

What if no-one bids for Hunter? We could then pick him up with our last pick and not even use th Reid compo pick.

Mulligan, Hooper, Gilbee, Hargrave, Moles, Skinner and Panos

I agree about the Reid pick.

Wouldn't Panos have another year on his contract? I think they will stick with Skinner for a bit longer so that won't give us a lot of changes and I think it's a certainty that Campbell will be upgraded and there is a fair chance Austin will.

[azabob]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

RJ, I think it was established a week or so back DJ only signed a two year deal.

[Maddog37]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Lin Jong is killing it too so he may be listed....

Last year Addison would have been high on the list of possible delistings. Vez may never be fit enough and I would suggest the same issue with Zeph. Both have talent to burn but that is not enough.

Gia is having more and more trouble with his body too (I know he is contracted) and I see him and Higgins being the same player.

Allowing for what has been said about Panos he still needs to improve by growing a few inches or increasing his speed. Neither of which seem likely.

Still a long time left in this season and injuries etc to any of the older guys would have some bearing.

Very interesting times ahead.

[GVGjr]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

There are a couple of obvious de-listings, after that it gets tough. There will be be some blokes that are going to be desperately unlucky. We are not forced to use all our picks in the draft anyway, and trading a couple of them in upgrades could be an option.
If this draft is as good as claimed, then we need to optimise our early picks, and as suggested some trade manoeuvring for an extra low pick might make sense.
However I think care needs to be taken not to give players on the list the feeling the club sees them as mere meat on the hook, especially now that free agency is in place. If the players start to feel the club sees any of them as expendable, then they have every right to think they should take the best financial deal and run.
We could then be back to the Bad old days where Footscray found and developed champion players, only to have the rich and powerful clubs pinch the best of them out from under us.

I think the end of this season will be a very difficult one for the recruiting and coaching groups, and while it will be fascinating to see what they do, I for one do not envy them this time.

[Mantis]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I think it was a mistake activating the Sam Reid pick.

One would hope (think) that we before activating this pick we would have crunched the numbers and no exactly how many picks we would be using at this years draft.

[chef]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

One would hope (think) that we before activating this pick we would have crunched the numbers and no exactly how many picks we would be using at this years draft.

Maybe they did, but some players may perform better than expected.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Could we re-rookie a few players? They might not appreciate the large pay-cut though. Is it viable?

Someone like Moles, who if he doesn't come up this season then we know he still probably has something to give later.

[Cyberdoggie]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Could we re-rookie a few players? They might not appreciate the large pay-cut though. Is it viable?

Someone like Moles, who if he doesn't come up this season then we know he still probably has something to give later.

We could delist Moles and rookie him like we did Hahn.
But i believe you run the risk of someone else drafting him in that process (correct me if i'm wrong).

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Moles Hooper Mulligan Gilbee gone.
I would trade Sherman. Surely we'd get SOMETHING for him. Ditto Djerkurra.

Shaggy I think might get the tap on the shoulder.
Addison at the start of the year was gone, but he might have a future under Bmac.

Rose coloured glasses off, and Panos is probably taking a spot on the list we should open up for young talent.

If we want to build for a tilt at the flag tough calls have to be made

[LostDoggy]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

With limited time on the field over the last 2 games, Skinner has kicked a goal in each. Given Macca's philosophy of starting from scratch and developing his younger players, I'd be staggered if we invested the time into Skinner to see him improve sufficiently to warrant senior games whilst also believing that he wasn't good enough to stay on our list next year. I believe he has a lot of upside, which only maturity, game time and experience can test.

You move him on if you think there is no potential for real improvement.

[ledge]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Seems we have a very good list with the way we are finding it hard to pick players to delist.

[jazzadogs]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Moles Hooper Mulligan Gilbee gone.
I would trade Sherman. Surely we'd get SOMETHING for him. Ditto Djerkurra.

Shaggy I think might get the tap on the shoulder.
Addison at the start of the year was gone, but he might have a future under Bmac.

Rose coloured glasses off, and Panos is probably taking a spot on the list we should open up for young talent.

If we want to build for a tilt at the flag tough calls have to be made

I can't see any reason why we would trade away Sherman. Still young, has speed and still plenty of upside.

I would like to see Campbell, Jong and Austin retained on the rookie list, unless they show something over the rest of the season to say they deserve a spot. At this stage they would not be ahead of others in their position, and can therefore stay as rookies throughout next year unless we get a LTI.

Addison won't go.

Gilbee, Moles, Mulligan, Hooper seem to be the universally agreed delistings, I have no problems with that. Djerkurra and Skinner need to make the most of the opportunities they are getting.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Seems we have a very good list with the way we are finding it hard to pick players to delist.

Not sure I'd agree it's a very good list, but the mid-tier talent is pretty even and there's an argument both ways for a lot of players. With the picks we have it's a good opportunity to back ourselves in to select 4 or 5 100+ game players, and given we have a few likely rookie elevations at least a couple of tough decisions will need to be made.

Big last 2/3 of the season for a number of guys.