Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Lol I think I did to my embarrassment . I may have been thinking of Panos as a back option, but thats probably just an excuse. Mulligan surely won't be on our list at years end.

We have Lake, Williams, Markovic, Morris, Roberts and Talia which is enough still IMO. Drop Markovic (who I don't rate) back to the rookie list if we must promote Austin.

You can't drop a listed player back to the rookie list. You have to delist them and try to re-draft them - and hope no-one else picks him up

[Ghost Dog]

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Lol I think I did to my embarrassment . I may have been thinking of Panos as a back option, but thats probably just an excuse. Mulligan surely won't be on our list at years end.

We have Lake, Williams, Markovic, Morris, Roberts and Talia which is enough still IMO. Drop Markovic (who I don't rate) back to the rookie list if we must promote Austin.

Why don't you rate Marko? What do you see as his biggest deficiencies. Sorry, but I'm a Marko fan.

[azabob]

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Lol I think I did to my embarrassment . I may have been thinking of Panos as a back option, but thats probably just an excuse. Mulligan surely won't be on our list at years end.

We have Lake, Williams, Markovic, Morris, Roberts and Talia which is enough still IMO. Drop Markovic (who I don't rate) back to the rookie list if we must promote Austin.

Ah it's ok bulldogsman, I didnt think you would rate Mulligan.

In this years draft crop do you think we will be able to get a quality midfielder with skills but also fits the McCartney mould of attacking the ball?

[Bulldog4life]

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Right now I would have Gilbee, Hooper, Moles, Mulligan, Panos and Skinner(to be rookied) in the gun.

This would give us the 5 draft spots that we need plus a spot for a FA.

Don't see the point of upgrading Campbell or Austin after only one season on the rookie list as they aren't going anywhere.

Do we know for sure that Matthew Panos only had a one year contract when he was upgraded from the Rookie list.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

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We arent trading Higgo - He is the type of player we want to trade for : underperforming (scope for improvement) with good footskills and the right age.

He''ll improve.

I agree with your sum up of him however your last statement has been kicking around for a few years now.

[GVGjr]

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Do we know for sure that Matthew Panos only had a one year contract when he was upgraded from the Rookie list.

I'm sure they would all get two years or more. With Panos, it's very unlikely we would have offered a one year deal because we could have kept him as a rookie for another 12 months.

Sure we could break the contract but we tend to do that more when the attitude isn't right which isn't the case with Panos.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I'm sure they would all get two years or more. With Panos, it's very unlikely we would have offered a one year deal because we could have kept him as a rookie for another 12 months.

Sure we could break the contract but we tend to do that more when the attitude isn't right which isn't the case with Panos.

That's what I was thinking. If that is the case he is safe for another year if as you say his attitude is right.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

A few posters have made comments about not retaining/upgrading players onto our senior list due to having too many of their type. IMO you don't delist/not upgrade an otherwise senior list quality player becasue you have too many of their type. If that's the case, you trade.

[LostDoggy]

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In this years draft crop do you think we will be able to get a quality midfielder with skills but also fits the McCartney mould of attacking the ball?

Sadly we need three quick outside mids not one. Sydney mashed us up with these types

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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For me at this early stage of the season the retirements are: Gia, Gilbee & Shaggy
The delists: Moles, Mulligan, Hooper and Skinner.

Rookie upgrade for Austin, Johanissen (providing he comes back strongly from injury and continues his good early season form for Willy by the end of the year.
Possibly upgrade Campbell if we think he is going to press for selection next year regularly.

That leaves us with 4 places for draft picks (if Campbell is upgraded)

[GVGjr]

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For me at this early stage of the season the retirements are: Gia, Gilbee & Shaggy
The delists: Moles, Mulligan, Hooper and Skinner.

Rookie upgrade for Austin, Johanissen (providing he comes back strongly from injury and continues his good early season form for Willy by the end of the year.
Possibly upgrade Campbell if we think he is going to press for selection next year regularly.

That leaves us with 4 places for draft picks (if Campbell is upgraded)

I like your logic but I think we have to dig deeper than 4 changes.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I like your logic but I think we have to dig deeper than 4 changes.

Agree, but these are the only guys I know who are definitely coming out of contract at the end of the year, apart from Minson (whom I hope will re-sign for us)
I am not sure who we might be thinking about trading out, but guys like Howard, Sherman, DJ and even Grant might come into that equation depending on what we could get for them, either draft or trade wise.

Also we need to perhaps consider whether we can afford to have both of Markovic and Austin on our list. If it's a choice then at this early stage of the season I would lean toward keeping Austin - due to the edge he has over Markovic with mobility.

[Greystache]

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I like your logic but I think we have to dig deeper than 4 changes.

On top of those 4 we should be seriously looking at Tom Williams, he'll be 27 next season, is constantly injured, and even when fit his best is only mediocre. If we are to promote Austin I'd do it at Williams' expense.

Any interest from other clubs for Higgins should be seriously considered too.

[GVGjr]

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Agree, but these are the only guys I know who are definitely coming out of contract at the end of the year, apart from Minson (whom I hope will re-sign for us)
I am not sure who we might be thinking about trading out, but guys like Howard, Sherman, DJ and even Grant might come into that equation depending on what we could get for them, either draft or trade wise.

Also we need to perhaps consider whether we can afford to have both of Markovic and Austin on our list. If it's a choice then at this early stage of the season I would lean toward keeping Austin - due to the edge he has over Markovic with mobility.

I don't have a problem with Markovic and Austin on the list along with Lake, Williams and Morris. Apparently Williams wants to be tried as a forward when he returns and Macca might be open to that suggestion.

Trading away a player for a draft pick or an improved draft pick position should be something we consider.

[Ghost Dog]

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For me at this early stage of the season the retirements are: Gia, Gilbee & Shaggy
The delists: Moles, Mulligan, Hooper and Skinner.

Rookie upgrade for Austin, Johanissen (providing he comes back strongly from injury and continues his good early season form for Willy by the end of the year.
Possibly upgrade Campbell if we think he is going to press for selection next year regularly.

That leaves us with 4 places for draft picks (if Campbell is upgraded)

Shaggy has a few years left in him. Bit early to delist Skinner don't you think?