2017 Draft Watch

[GVGjr]

Re: 2017 Draft Watch

Doc would be happy

Do you think clubs are now starting to think about the "Go Home Factor" when looking at players, or do they just go for best available still. Somehow, I am thinking if they had a choice between a local player and an interstate recruit, they may go local.

I think it's always been a consideration but it's mainly come to surface in Queensland with two weak sides.

Clubs need to stand firm on contracts and player managers need to stop manipulating things

[Go_Dogs]

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Cal Twomey is indicating that Jarrod Brander could be a big slider so we might have a new candidate at pick 16.

From other things I've read, Adelaide isn't interested and neither are the Swans. West Coast should prefer the local boy in Allen if they are considering a tall forward. If Brisbane is considering Lachlan Fogarty at pick 15 to be paired with Rayner then we could be in a great spot to land Brander.

It's a giant jigsaw and a lot of pieces aren't fitting but it's strange that so much is open at the moment.

I'd be very surprised if Adelaide weren't into Brander.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'd be disappointed if we considered Brander TBH.

We have zero need for talls in this draft.

[choconmientay]

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FP Mock Draft:





78 - WB: Bailey Morrish (Dandenong) DEF/MID

[bulldogtragic]

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I'd like to not pass on Cerra at 9. If he's the slider from the top group, if have him in a heart beat. Same with Murphy at 16.

[LostDoggy]

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FP above have StKilda taking Clark at 8 and L.Fogarty at 15. Would seriously piss me off if this eventuates, both would be great additions for us.

[Bornadog]

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Brett Anderson from SEN has us with Naughton (9), and Higgins (16) - see full list here

9. Western Bulldogs


Aaron NAUGHTON


30-Nov-99 | 194.0cm | 85.0kg | Peel Thunder
The Dogs already have a few young tall defenders – and recruited Jackson Trengove – but some scouts think Lewis Young will eventually settle as a forward, while Kieran Collins is still a work in progress. Naughton steps in from day one and plays straight away.
Who else? Nick Coffield, Hunter Clark

16. Western Bulldogs


Jack HIGGINS


19-Mar-99 | 177.8cm | 77.0kg | Oakleigh Chargers
Higgins and Fogarty could easily flip spots given that the Bulldogs were big fans of the latter when he trained there pre-season with the AFL Academy. Higgins will provide the Dogs with a smart little forward who can go through midfield. Murphy is another that they could look at.


Who else? Lachlan Fogarty, Nathan Murphy

[choconmientay]

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2017 AFL Event Broadcasts

Event	Date	TV	Radio	afl.com.au	AFL Live Official App
017 NAB AFL Draft	Friday 24 November, 7:00 PM AEDT	Fox Footy	SEN, 3AW	Online: AFL.com.au Draft Tracker	AFL Live Pass

[choconmientay]

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Nothing new but this is TheAge take on our list and needs:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/trading...0171118-gzo2he

WESTERN BULLDOGS

Draft picks: 9, 16, 79

DEPTH CHART

KEY DEFENDERS: Marcus Adams, Jackson Trengove, Zaine Cordy, Fletcher Roberts, Lewis Young, Kieran Collins

SMALL/MEDIUM DEFENDERS: Jason Johannisen, Easton Wood, Dale Morris, Shane Biggs, Matt Suckling, Hayden Crozier, Bailey Williams, Brad Lynch

MIDFIELDERS: Marcus Bontempelli, Jack Macrae, Luke Dahlhaus, Lachie Hunter, Caleb Daniel, Toby McLean, Mitch Wallis, Liam Picken, Tom Liberatore, Lin Jong, Patrick Lipinski

KEY FORWARDS: Tom Boyd, Jack Redpath, Josh Schache

SMALL/MEDIUM FORWARDS: Bailey Dale, Josh Dunkley, Lukas Webb, Tory Dickson, Clay Smith, Mitch Honeychurch, Fergus Greene

RUCKS: Jordan Roughead, Tim English, Tom Campbell, Nathan Mullenger-McHugh

They had their critics during the trade period but credit to the Bulldogs, who eventually procured pick 16 to offset the turbulent departure of Jake Stringer. They also landed Josh Schache – a No. 2 draft pick only two years ago – on the cheap as well as filling holes with Jackson Trengove and Hayden Crozier. Both of these players are versatile, which is in fitting with the Dogs' mantra under Luke Beveridge and it will be interesting to see what they do with the pair. With Bob Murphy and Matthew Boyd having retired, the Dogs have a bit of a hole at half-back. Some have them linked to Hunter Clark, who uses the ball well and has developed a midfield string to his bow, while there's considerable talk they are keen on Ed Richards, whose speed and skill are attractive to recruiters. The Dogs won a premiership 14 months ago with a relatively small forward line but, with Stringer gone, Tory Dickson coming to the end and Clay Smith struggling to recapture his form of last year's finals, they look a bit shallow in that area of the ground too. Jack Higgins has long been identified as a leading candidate for GWS at pick 11, but with other small forwards available for the Giants at later picks he could get through to the Dogs at pick 16. They have been considered as a possible early bidder for Richmond father-son nominee Patrick Naish, although that talk has cooled. Nathan Murphy would be another forward option, but if they don't take him at pick nine it looks likely they will get pipped for his services.

[GVGjr]

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Brett Anderson from SEN has us with Naughton (9), and Higgins (16) - see full list here

9. Western Bulldogs


Aaron NAUGHTON


30-Nov-99 | 194.0cm | 85.0kg | Peel Thunder
The Dogs already have a few young tall defenders – and recruited Jackson Trengove – but some scouts think Lewis Young will eventually settle as a forward, while Kieran Collins is still a work in progress. Naughton steps in from day one and plays straight away.
Who else? Nick Coffield, Hunter Clark

16. Western Bulldogs


Jack HIGGINS


19-Mar-99 | 177.8cm | 77.0kg | Oakleigh Chargers
Higgins and Fogarty could easily flip spots given that the Bulldogs were big fans of the latter when he trained there pre-season with the AFL Academy. Higgins will provide the Dogs with a smart little forward who can go through midfield. Murphy is another that they could look at.


Who else? Lachlan Fogarty, Nathan Murphy

He has Fogarty going to Brisbane to help both he and Rayner to settle in. Murphy and Higgins seem to be great candidates for us at 16.

[kruder]

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Its an interesting one with Naughton, we obviously missed out on Lever so the club was keen to get another defender in but at the same time would have been surprised at the late season development of Young. After looking closer at him he did finish top 10 for agility and endurance two traits Daly rates highly and judging by his selections so far he wouldn't be put of by his kicking/technique. He isn't going to be a so called sexy selection but I wouldn't be surprised if we went this way.

[GVGjr]

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Its an interesting one with Naughton, we obviously missed out on Lever so the club was keen to get another defender in but at the same time would have been surprised at the late season development of Young. After looking closer at him he did finish top 10 for agility and endurance two traits Daly rates highly and judging by his selections so far he wouldn't be put of by his kicking/technique. He isn't going to be a so called sexy selection but I wouldn't be surprised if we went this way.

I mentioned on the other thread that even though we probably need run and carry more, if Naughton is clearly the best player then we should take him. Had we traded pick 9 for Lever would the same objections still be as strong?

So I think the consensus is that we only have too many back man if we draft Naughton not if we traded for Lever

[choconmientay]

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AflDraftCentral: Matt Balmer’s 2017 Final AFL Draft Power Rankings Part 2
November 20, 2017 by Matt Balmer

#16 Aaron Naughton
Key Position Defender (Peel/Western Australia)
30/11/19999 | 194.0cm | 85.0kg

Scouting notes: Played as a bottom-ager in two of Western Australia’s NAB AFL Under 18 Championship games in 2016, and was named as a co-captain for the 2017 carnival where he impressed in defence. He marks well overhead and is a good reader of the play. Has an awkward ball drop which can affect his left foot kicking efficiency at times, but mostly it gets where it needs to go. Made his League debut in the WAFL and didn’t looked out of place.

Strengths: Intercept marking, reading the play, mature body, agile
Improvements: Kicking technique

Combine test results: 20m Sprint (secs) – 3.09 | Agility (secs) – 8.22 | Yo-Yo Test (level) – 21.8



#9 Jarrod Brander
Key Position Forward/Defender (Bendigo Pioneers/Allies)
11/02/1999 | 194.6cm | 92.3kg

Scouting notes: Key Position tall that can play at either end where he reads the flight of the ball well. Is mobile up forward which allows him to make multiple leads. Missed most of 2016 through knee injury, but jumped on the scene booting over 20 goals for Geelong Grammar in the 1st XVIII competition as a Year 10 in 2015. Doesn’t look out of place in defence after playing there for the AFL Academy – as well as collecting 26 disposals in defence in the APS v AGSV school boy game last year. Was originally zoned to GWS but it is now ineligible for GWS to select him under changes to their Academy zone. Best swingman in the draft – with healthy debate which end he best plays his football.

Strengths: Mobility, set shot goalkicking, versatile
Improvements: Consistency

Combine test results: 20m Sprint (secs) – 3.11 | Agility (secs) – 8.40 | Yo-Yo Test (level) – 21.1


His final Phantom Draft will be released Thursday night at 7pm

[bulldogtragic]

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I mentioned on the other thread that even though we probably need run and carry more, if Naughton is clearly the best player then we should take him. Had we traded pick 9 for Lever would the same objections still be as strong?

So I think the consensus is that we only have too many back man if we draft Naughton not if we traded for Lever

I think there needs to be a longer term view. First, my assumption. West, Khamis, Kellett & Ollie Liberatore take up a huge chunk of points and we have little up the pointy end of the draft. That's three midfielders and a mid size fwd/def.

If that's the assumption we are working on, we won't be drafting top end KPPs for a few years. So an argument can be made for Naughton on that basis. But the flip side is Morris and probably Roberts both have to go next year leaving 5 KPDs (Cordy, JT, Adams, Collins & Naughton) and 4 KPFs (Boyd, Schache, Young, Redders). And if Roughy can't nail down the ruck position, he can't add to the KPP numbers front or back, so he plays VFL or explores his free agency status.

So the core of the post is the opening assumption, but a genuine argument can be made for it as long as we genuinely believe the assumption and JMac irons out the over balance next year. But from that WA news article he wants to play for Collingwood apparently.

[bulldogtragic]

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AflDraftCentral: Matt Balmer’s 2017 Final AFL Draft Power Rankings Part 2
November 20, 2017 by Matt Balmer

#16 Aaron Naughton
Key Position Defender (Peel/Western Australia)
30/11/19999 | 194.0cm | 85.0kg

Scouting notes: Played as a bottom-ager in two of Western Australia’s NAB AFL Under 18 Championship games in 2016, and was named as a co-captain for the 2017 carnival where he impressed in defence. He marks well overhead and is a good reader of the play. Has an awkward ball drop which can affect his left foot kicking efficiency at times, but mostly it gets where it needs to go. Made his League debut in the WAFL and didn’t looked out of place.

Strengths: Intercept marking, reading the play, mature body, agile
Improvements: Kicking technique

Combine test results: 20m Sprint (secs) – 3.09 | Agility (secs) – 8.22 | Yo-Yo Test (level) – 21.8



#9 Jarrod Brander
Key Position Forward/Defender (Bendigo Pioneers/Allies)
11/02/1999 | 194.6cm | 92.3kg

Scouting notes: Key Position tall that can play at either end where he reads the flight of the ball well. Is mobile up forward which allows him to make multiple leads. Missed most of 2016 through knee injury, but jumped on the scene booting over 20 goals for Geelong Grammar in the 1st XVIII competition as a Year 10 in 2015. Doesn’t look out of place in defence after playing there for the AFL Academy – as well as collecting 26 disposals in defence in the APS v AGSV school boy game last year. Was originally zoned to GWS but it is now ineligible for GWS to select him under changes to their Academy zone. Best swingman in the draft – with healthy debate which end he best plays his football.

Strengths: Mobility, set shot goalkicking, versatile
Improvements: Consistency

Combine test results: 20m Sprint (secs) – 3.11 | Agility (secs) – 8.40 | Yo-Yo Test (level) – 21.1


His final Phantom Draft will be released Thursday night at 7pm

I can make the argument for one KPP as above. But two is taking the piss.