Father/Son Watch

[hujsh]

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That makes sense because he's such a long term prospect given he will need to physically develop.
If he goes after pick 15 as Cal suggests, we can easily match a bid in that range.

There's also not much incentive to force us to match early for other clubs. We don't have any worthwhile picks to eat up it's all just end of draft stuff.

[lemmon]

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Dumb question - are we able to trade back into the draft after Croft has been bid on and we've matched?

So for example, if Croft has been bid on at 15 and we match the bid with our later picks, could we then swap our 2024 second-rounder for Collingwood's 2023 second-rounder, if we identify a player that has slid and were keen to get back into the draft this year?

[GVGjr]

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There's also not much incentive to force us to match early for other clubs. We don't have any worthwhile picks to eat up it's all just end of draft stuff.

I agree, I've read a lot of tough talk on other sites about making teams pay full book value for NGA, Academy and father son picks but it should always just come back to where clubs actually rate players. At the end of the day the sames picks will shuffle forward for us and the bid where ever it comes will be matched.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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There's also not much incentive to force us to match early for other clubs. We don't have any worthwhile picks to eat up it's all just end of draft stuff.

Perhaps clubs will be content that we've paid a fairly hefty price already to trade up to pick 5 so Croft will slide a bit.

[bulldogtragic]

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Dumb question - are we able to trade back into the draft after Croft has been bid on and we've matched?

So for example, if Croft has been bid on at 15 and we match the bid with our later picks, could we then swap our 2024 second-rounder for Collingwood's 2023 second-rounder, if we identify a player that has slid and were keen to get back into the draft this year?

The problem is there are rules about when you’ve traded out your first rounder. You’ve got to hold a F2, F3 & F4. So I’m assuming we will find a F4 from somewhere. But you can’t trade out a F1 & F2 without replacing it and I don’t really see too many opportunities to live trade late picks for an F2 to trade back in with it.

But for argument sake, say Sydney exhaust their points on their academy kid and we offered them our shuffled up picks in the 40’s with Croft sliding for their F2 because they think Adams, Grundy, Hamling & Jordan means their F2 might be pick 40 next year and they want to draft two more kids. So we did that and used the points from 62 (currently 69) to grab Lual. Then we could trade our F2 or Sydney’s F2 to trade back in. Back to the post question.

I’d prefer to hold both F2’s though and look to trade up next year to a First as it looks like Brisbane & Carlton will be selling their first rounders for points next year.

[Axe Man]

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What Bulldogs fans can expect from Croft

Western Bulldogs fans can expect to see Jordan Croft ?crash packs and make a contest? in the years to come when he adds to what is already becoming a potent forward line.

Croft officially nominated as a father-son for the Bulldogs earlier this month, where he is set to follow in the footsteps of his father Matthew, who featured in 186 AFL games for the club.

The 18-year-old spent his junior football days at Maribyrnong Park playing a variety of roles in defence, forward and assisting in the ruck.

However, he has found his best position as a hard-working lead-up key forward with the Calder Cannons in recent years.

?Calder just kind of threw me up forward and I obviously excelled a little bit in that position and they kept me there and I?ve excelled throughout the years and developed as a forward,? Croft said.

?Just being able to play to my role and play to the strengths (this year), I think it really helped in my mindset.?

Croft finished fourth in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine earlier this month, but believes his biggest weapon is his aerial work.

While still lean, he measures 200.3cm as a towering mobile big man.

Asked what he believed his biggest strengths were, Croft responded: ?Just my ability to crash packs and make a contest, just making sure the backs aren?t intercepting and we can get our smalls involved. That?s probably the biggest strength in my game.?

Croft averaged 10.2 disposals, 3.5 marks (2 contested) and 2.1 goals across 11 games in the Coates Talent League this year.

[Axe Man]

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Not our father/sons as their Dad's didn't play enough games for us but a couple to watch next year tied to the Adelaide clubs:

Tyler Welsh
Son of: Four-time Crows leading goalkicker Scott Welsh

Position: Medium forward

SANFL club: Woodville-West Torrens

2023 statistics: Three reserves matches, kicking one goal, and 10 under-18 games, averaging 2.7 majors, 9.1 disposals, 4.8 marks

?He?s a 190cm, powerful, explosive forward who reads the footy really well in the air and has good hands. He?s still got a lot to learn. After he kicked five goals for South Australia (against Vic Country in June), he probably didn?t reach those heights until our semi-final versus South, when he kicked six. He was very, very good that day,? Eagles talent manager Darren Hams said.

Louie Montgomery
Son of: 2004 Power premiership defender Brett Montgomery

Position: Utility

SANFL club: North Adelaide

2023 statistics: 11 under-18 games for the Roosters, averaging 18.7 disposals, 5.8 marks, 2.2 tackles, 76 ranking points

?He?s got good athleticism for his size and has got a good overhead mark for his size. He can cause defences a few problems. He?s got more AFL attributes than his older brother, Harper, but probably doesn?t work as hard as Harper does. Louie goes to Prince Alfred College and is 183cm,? North Adelaide talent manager Neil Sanders said.

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[Twodogs]

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I'm really surprised that Monty played less than 100 games with us. But he was 23 when he debuted I guess.

[bulldogtragic]

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Just watched a NGA/FS club video from last year. Said there were two Eagleton boys in the program. I hope they come off and there’s another chapter of the Eagleton/Montgomery trade here.

[Axe Man]

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I read in the Age today (paper version, online article is paywalled) that talk is Sydney may bid on Croft. That's currently pick 12 but of course should slide back a couple of spots.

[GVGjr]

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I read in the Age today (paper version, online article is paywalled) that talk is Sydney may bid on Croft. That's currently pick 12 but of course should slide back a couple of spots.

That seems fair, they're chasing a key forward and if it's at pick 14 we easily got the points to cover it. Based on some of the better phantom drafts it doesn't appear that likely for Lual to go past pick 40 now.

[Dogs 24/7]

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What Bulldogs fans can expect from Croft

Western Bulldogs fans can expect to see Jordan Croft ?crash packs and make a contest? in the years to come when he adds to what is already becoming a potent forward line.

Croft officially nominated as a father-son for the Bulldogs earlier this month, where he is set to follow in the footsteps of his father Matthew, who featured in 186 AFL games for the club.

The 18-year-old spent his junior football days at Maribyrnong Park playing a variety of roles in defence, forward and assisting in the ruck.

However, he has found his best position as a hard-working lead-up key forward with the Calder Cannons in recent years.

?Calder just kind of threw me up forward and I obviously excelled a little bit in that position and they kept me there and I?ve excelled throughout the years and developed as a forward,? Croft said.

?Just being able to play to my role and play to the strengths (this year), I think it really helped in my mindset.?

Croft finished fourth in the 2km time trial at the national draft combine earlier this month, but believes his biggest weapon is his aerial work.

While still lean, he measures 200.3cm as a towering mobile big man.

Asked what he believed his biggest strengths were, Croft responded: ?Just my ability to crash packs and make a contest, just making sure the backs aren?t intercepting and we can get our smalls involved. That?s probably the biggest strength in my game.?

Croft averaged 10.2 disposals, 3.5 marks (2 contested) and 2.1 goals across 11 games in the Coates Talent League this year.

Great effort for a tall gangly player to finish fourth in a 2K contest.

[azabob]

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I read in the Age today (paper version, online article is paywalled) that talk is Sydney may bid on Croft. That's currently pick 12 but of course should slide back a couple of spots.

Who did they have us taking?

[Bulldog Joe]

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Great effort for a tall gangly player to finish fourth in a 2K contest.

Not overly remarkable because that is endurance and straight line running. It is still a good sign.

It doesn't require quick acceleration or agility.

[Axe Man]

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Who did they have us taking?

Unlike the HUN version it wasn't a phantom, just a 1 to 25 listing. Watson was 5 and Sanders 6 for what it's worth (Croft 15).