Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

    JUH, Stevens & Raak all made their AFEL Academy squads for next year.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 17921

      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      JUH, Stevens & Raak all made their AFEL Academy squads for next year.
      Word is Stevens isn’t actually NGA eligible for us.
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34316

        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

        Originally posted by comrade
        Word is Stevens isn’t actually NGA eligible for us.
        Interesting if true after a lot of media folk have said so.
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

          Originally posted by comrade
          Word is Stevens isn’t actually NGA eligible for us.
          According to this list he is;


          · edited 1 month ago


          Next year's AFL Draft will be the most compromised draft in AFL history, get a preview as to why

          Taj Schofield (Port Adelaide F/S, son of Jarrod)
          Luke Edwards (Adelaide F/S, son of Tyson)
          Jamarra Ugle-Hagan (Western Bulldogs NGA)
          Nick Stevens (Western Bulldogs NGA)
          Connor Downie (Hawthorn NGA)
          Lachlan Jones (Port Adelaide NGA)
          James Borlase (Adelaide NGA, should be a Port F/S pick)
          Brandon Walker (Fremantle NGA)
          Joel Western (Fremantle NGA)
          Reef McInnes (Collingwood NGA)
          Cody Brand (Essendon NGA)
          Braeden Campbell (Swans Academy)
          Alex Davies (Suns Academy)
          Joshua Green (Giants Academy)
          Blake Coleman (Lions Academy)
          Saxon Crozier (Lions Academy)
          Errol Gulden (Swans Academy)
          Carter Michael (Lions Academy)
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14580

            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

            Originally posted by comrade
            Word is Stevens isn’t actually NGA eligible for us.
            Whos saying hes not?
            The curse is dead.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 17921

              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

              Originally posted by chef
              Whos saying hes not?
              Someone on BF with a local journalistic background is adamant he's not eligible and has confirmed with someone close to the club. Apparently Stevens has been part of the Academy as he is in our zone but his family background doesn't meet the criteria for us to be allowed bidding rights to him.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 17921

                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                Originally posted by chef
                Whos saying hes not?

                I don't know if it's true or not, but I'm not sure why the poster on BF would lie about it.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • chef
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14580

                  Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                  Thanks comrade.
                  The curse is dead.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27654

                    Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Someone on BF with a local journalistic background is adamant he's not eligible and has confirmed with someone close to the club. Apparently Stevens has been part of the Academy as he is in our zone but his family background doesn't meet the criteria for us to be allowed bidding rights to him.
                    The list I posted was updated a month ago yesterday. Things must have changed fairly recently.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • The Adelaide Connection
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2739

                      Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                      Bastards.



                      Western Bulldogs to pay hefty price for next ‘Buddy Franklin’ Jamarra Ugle-Hagan should draft discounts be scrapped
                      Sam Landsberger, Herald Sun
                      November 25, 2019 7:33pm

                      Western Bulldogs shape as the biggest loser if club power wins out and the AFL scraps the generous discounts applied to Next Generation Academy prospects before the 2020 draft.

                      Carlton great Andrew McKay completed a review into the bidding system in July this year and, while the 20 per cent discount was untouched, the Herald Sun understands it is certain to again come under the microscope after this week’s national draft.

                      The Dogs have priority access to Jamarra Ugle-Hagan through their NGA next year and without the discount they would have to pay a hefty price.

                      “He’s arguably going to be as good as Buddy Franklin, and very arguably heading towards pick No. 1,” one recruiter said on Monday.

                      “He’s already committed to the Bulldogs. He’s mercurial, gifted in the air, got good agility, good size although he lacks body strength at the moment.

                      “He kicked 10 for Scotch in the APS a couple of times last season, so when they start kicking 10 you start taking notice.”

                      Next year’s draft, will be extremely compromised with an abundance of academy and father-son prospects headlining the pool.

                      One expert said 22 of his top 40 prospects were already tied to a club.

                      Multiple mooted changes have been suggested to the AFL, both to amend the bidding system and to toughen up the eligibility rules.

                      The most common one is to either reduce the discount or have it only apply after pick 30, which would ensure that elite talents are paid for at market value.

                      Most clubs are happy for discounts to be applied to all father-sons, enjoying the romance of that rule.

                      Some also believe that the current rule is fair for the northern academies run by GWS, Sydney, Brisbane and Gold Coast because it is important to nurture players in rugby heartland.

                      But there is widespread frustration at the potential to rort the system.

                      There were suggestions on Monday that one wealthy club had started relocating talented juniors into its zone.

                      “NGAs were designed to help disadvantaged kids and grow the talent pool of non-football families and backgrounds,” one scout said.

                      “Not for clubs to scoop up already-talented footballers who were always going to make it.”

                      But Adelaide has access to midfielder James Borlase next year despite his father, Darryl, playing in four SANFL premierships for Port Adelaide.

                      Borlase played Auskick in primary school but qualifies for the Crows’ NGA because he was born in Egypt.

                      The AFL does not count Darryl Borlase’s Escort Cup appearances, reducing his senior games tally to 177 and below the 200 required to qualify as a father-son prospect for Port.

                      Collingwood’s zone covers the rich Oakleigh region and the Magpies are poised to secure Reef McInnes next year after taking Isaac Quaynor last year.

                      The Magpies were able to match bids for Quaynor (No. 13) and father-son Will Kelly (No. 29) with a suite of picks beyond 40, which also didn’t sit well with rivals.

                      “If you cop a bad academy area you might not get anybody out of it,” one club said.

                      “It’s almost gone back to zoning plus some draft picks.”

                      THIS YEAR’S NEXT GENERATION PLAYERS

                      *Players nominated for draft

                      Isaiah Butters (Fremantle)

                      Liam Henry (Fremantle)

                      Leno Thomas (Fremantle)

                      Harrison Pepper (Hawthorn)

                      Matthew McGuinness (North Melbourne)

                      Bigoa Nyuon (St Kilda)

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 17921

                        Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                        Gordo will fight it.

                        UPDATE: Landsberger has just come out on Twitter and stated the AFL mistakenly gave out incorrect information and discounts will still apply in 2020. The article has now been updated on HS website.

                        Whirlwind of emotions haha.
                        Last edited by comrade; 25-11-2019, 09:17 PM.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44290

                          Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                          They can't change the process after the trade period as we might have positioned ourselves differently.

                          I don't think they can change the rules for next years draft
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • angelopetraglia
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6782

                            Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                            Good news. https://twitter.com/samlandsberger/s...252133376?s=21

                            The AFL mistakenly gave out the wrong information today. But credit to them for putting their hand up straight away and apologising. This is a now a significant win for the Western Bulldogs, and for every club with gun prospect tied to them in 2020

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                              Everything’s coming up Doghouse!
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • AshMac
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2018
                                • 1714

                                Re: Future Priority Access Thread (Inc. Father/Son, Academy Players)

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                They can't change the process after the trade period as we might have positioned ourselves differently.

                                I don't think they can change the rules for next years draft
                                100%

                                I’m sure we’d have hung onto our second round pick next year if that were the case
                                The dam wall has busted!

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