Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

[GVGjr]

Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

That's what I was thinking. Decent of them to do that, says a lot about their culture in isolation. I'm unaware if this is standard practice between teams.

Beatson has been suggesting some rule changes to the bidding system and seems to be one of the better operators
I think we are now well placed to cover matching his pick

He has been very vocal on some rule changes in the bidding process and I think his suggestion is a good one
As an example only (because this won't happen) basically if he bid on JUH at pick 3 but McDonald was still there who we rated higher we could then decide not to match his bid and then move up to pick 4 and be able to select McDonald
I think this stops teams making other clubs in paying a premium for a player they have helped develop

[Axe Man]

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If memory serves me correct, pick 3 would still be the highest ever bid to be made &/or matched.

Heeney was bid on at pick 2 by Melbourne but Swans only had to use pick 18 to match under the old rules.

[bulldogtragic]

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Heeney was bid on at pick 2 by Melbourne but Swans only had to use pick 18 to match under the old rules.

And why they were changed. Imagine JUH for pick 14 this year?

[Axe Man]

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And why they were changed. Imagine JUH for pick 14 this year?

Would have been the biggest steal since Ayce Cordy!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Beatson has been suggesting some rule changes to the bidding system and seems to be one of the better operators
I think we are now well placed to cover matching his pick

He has been very vocal on some rule changes in the bidding process and I think his suggestion is a good one
As an example only (because this won't happen) basically if he bid on JUH at pick 3 but McDonald was still there who we rated higher we could then decide not to match his bid and then move up to pick 4 and be able to select McDonald
I think this stops teams making other clubs in paying a premium for a player they have helped develop

Yep, I don't mind his alternative bidding process suggestion. He also said the AFL never seem keen on it whenever he mentions it to them.

[bulldogtragic]

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Would have been the biggest steal since Ayce Cordy!

We sure showed them!

[Sedat]

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Would have been the biggest steal since Ayce Cordy!

We can thank Matthew Drain for that particular act of bastardry of St Kilda bidding on the pick immediately before ours.

[soupman]

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Beatson has been suggesting some rule changes to the bidding system and seems to be one of the better operators
I think we are now well placed to cover matching his pick

He has been very vocal on some rule changes in the bidding process and I think his suggestion is a good one
As an example only (because this won't happen) basically if he bid on JUH at pick 3 but McDonald was still there who we rated higher we could then decide not to match his bid and then move up to pick 4 and be able to select McDonald
I think this stops teams making other clubs in paying a premium for a player they have helped develop

I think thats an atrocious idea.

Clubs already get enough of a leg up with being able to match the bid, what benefit to anybody does giving them a free high pick because they don't want a blole offer?

[SquirrelGrip]

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Would have been the biggest steal since Ayce Cordy!

Pick 14 for a Premiership CHF? Would have been happy to do it again!

[hujsh]

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I think thats an atrocious idea.

Clubs already get enough of a leg up with being able to match the bid, what benefit to anybody does giving them a free high pick because they don't want a blole offer?

Agreed. The difference between the value of points needed to get to pick 3 and the actual value of pick 3 is light years apart unless you have someone you need to bid on. If we were to package all our picks up and trade them for one equivalent value pick no club in their right mind would make that trade.

[hujsh]

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Pick 14 for a Premiership CHF? Would have been happy to do it again!

Unless you're saying Zaine would have spurred us for not picking up his brother I think you're slightly muddled on which Cordy is which.

[Axe Man]

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Unless you're saying Zaine would have spurred us for not picking up his brother I think you're slightly muddled on which Cordy is which.

The best thing Ayce did was cause Zaine's value to plummet, enabling us to pick him up for a steal!

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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Agreed. The difference between the value of points needed to get to pick 3 and the actual value of pick 3 is light years apart unless you have someone you need to bid on. If we were to package all our picks up and trade them for one equivalent value pick no club in their right mind would make that trade.

I think it's an okay alternative.
You still need the picks to either match the bid or move up.. You can't just slingshot in there just because you were tied to a player who was picked early and whom you passed on. You would need to have picks to be able to match a bid.
All this is doing is making sure the club placing the initial bid on a player tied to another club is genuinely rating that kid at that pick, and not just placing a bid because they know the club that has a claim on the player will match it.

[jeemak]

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I think it's an okay alternative.
You still need the picks to either match the bid or move up.. You can't just slingshot in there just because you were tied to a player who was picked early and whom you passed on. You would need to have picks to be able to match a bid.
All this is doing is making sure the club placing the initial bid on a player tied to another club is genuinely rating that kid at that pick, and not just placing a bid because they know the club that has a claim on the player will match it.

But isn't that part of the deal? If a club has invested in a player and they don't wish to match a bid then that's life, there shouldn't be guarantees in anything for clubs or draftees.

[SquirrelGrip]

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Unless you're saying Zaine would have spurred us for not picking up his brother I think you're slightly muddled on which Cordy is which.

You are spot on - I've mixed up my As and Zs!!