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  • Axe Man
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2008
    • 11494

    #286
    Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    If Jamarra goes at 3 we will need 1788 points.

    Picks 26,33,41& 42 will more than cover that. It will leave an excess of about 235 points. I'm not sure what happens to this excess.

    Does it get added to our next pick and by doing so moves it up the order (pick 52 = 246 + 235 becomes pick 38?) or does it generate a new pick which would be pick 53? Leaving us with 52,53 & 54.

    If it's the latter surely we would package them up for a move up the draft or for future picks to get back in 2021 a bit more. Swans or West Coast could be buyers.
    I wouldn't say it generates a new pick - pick 42 moves down to pick 53.

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    • divvydan
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 1502

      #287
      Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

      Those picks 52,53,54 would then all move up 3 spots to 49,50,51 since 4 higher picks drop out and 1 higher pick is created. In order to then package them up we would need a team who is going to use those picks, which might be the hardest part if it's true that fewer than 50 picks might get used this year.

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11494

        #288
        Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

        Originally posted by divvydan
        Those picks 52,53,54 would then all move up 3 spots to 49,50,51 since 4 higher picks drop out and 1 higher pick is created. In order to then package them up we would need a team who is going to use those picks, which might be the hardest part if it's true that fewer than 50 picks might get used this year.
        They will move up even further than that since we won't be the only ones matching bids with multiple picks.

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3712

          #289
          Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

          Originally posted by divvydan
          Those picks 52,53,54 would then all move up 3 spots to 49,50,51 since 4 higher picks drop out and 1 higher pick is created. In order to then package them up we would need a team who is going to use those picks, which might be the hardest part if it's true that fewer than 50 picks might get used this year.
          Swans & Collingwood look like they might need more points.

          West Coast without a pick before 60 might be interested perhaps
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10120

            #290
            Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            You and Peter Gordon have both taken credit in the past few days, looks like you might have to duke it out to settle this.
            You know, Peter Gordon saved us in our hour of need. And so did BT.

            Then at a time were crying for salvation, Peter Gordon came back to us, and so has BT.

            I'm starting to see a connection.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18103

              #291
              Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              You know, Peter Gordon saved us in our hour of need. And so did BT.

              Then at a time were crying for salvation, Peter Gordon came back to us, and so has BT.

              I'm starting to see a connection.
              PG decides to step down just as BT returns....

              Hmmm.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • SquirrelGrip
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2007
                • 1555

                #292
                Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                Originally posted by comrade
                PG decides to step down just as BT returns....

                Hmmm.
                Has anyone seen BT amd PG in the same room at the same time? Just saying.....
                "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #293
                  Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  You and Peter Gordon have both taken credit in the past few days, looks like you might have to duke it out to settle this.
                  Didn't you read the news, he's out, I'm back.

                  It's settled.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27682

                    #294
                    Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                    Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                    That's a lot of balls Jee.
                    Where does the line start?
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 22150

                      #295
                      Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      Where does the line start?
                      I don't know but if I was standing in it I'd be blushing because of the turnout.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11494

                        #296
                        Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                        Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could become the richest teenager AFL has seen

                        Adelaide will gift Jamarra Ugle-Hagan a huge cash prize when it bids on the Bulldogs’ academy star with the club’s first ever No.1 draft pick. Here's what else is locked in.

                        Adelaide will gift Jamarra Ugle-Hagan a $10,000 cash prize when it bids on the Western Bulldogs’ academy star with the club’s first ever No.1 draft pick tonight.

                        The delighted Bulldogs will match the bid and secure Ugle-Hagan, bumping Adelaide’s pick to No.2 where it will most likely select ruckman Riley Thilthorpe.

                        Ugle-Hagan would become the first Indigenous player crowned as the No.1 draft pick since Des Headland (Brisbane Lions) in 1998.

                        The AFL’s draft sponsor, NAB, confirmed to the Herald Sun earlier this year that it would once again donate a cash prize to the dux of the draft.

                        While the Crows’ bold decision will deny their own player the $10,000,they want to stay true to their draft order which has Ugle-Hagan a nose in front of a group of four teenagers.

                        The money will come as cash instead of as an investment portfolio, as previously believed, and could see Ugle-Hagan become one of the richest teenagers the game has seen next year.

                        Matching the bid will see the Bulldogs’ second and final pick of the draft bumped to the very end.

                        That was a key factor in Adelaide’s thinking — it wanted to knock the Bulldogs to the end of the draft for competitive reasons.

                        The Crows don’t want to risk the Bulldogs taking a player they liked with their second pick, which could come before Adelaide exits the draft should Ugle-Hagan slide.

                        The Crows are confident that relinquishing the their first ever No.1 pick won’t hurt them commercially, given the player it takes at No.2 will still be their highest ever draft choice.

                        That player will still be a marketing goldmine for the powerhouse living in a two-team state and Crows fans can sleep comfortably that their recruiters were true to the talent order.

                        Just about every club agrees that mercurial left-footer Ugle-Hagan is the standout prospect in the draft, despite not playing any football this year due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Victoria.

                        The Bulldogs are also thrilled that, after amassing a bank of draft points to be able to match a No.1 bid, they will walk away with their first top pick since taking Adam Cooney in 2003.

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10244

                          #297
                          Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                          So the bid is taken as fact now?
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • bulldogsthru&thru
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • May 2011
                            • 8048

                            #298
                            Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                            Originally posted by Happy Days
                            So the bid is taken as fact now?
                            There's nothing factual about anything the herald sun reports.

                            This could be true. It could also be an assumption. It could be a guess. It could also be plain wrong.

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                            • bulldogsthru&thru
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • May 2011
                              • 8048

                              #299
                              Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Jamarra Ugle-Hagan could become the richest teenager AFL has seen

                              Adelaide will gift Jamarra Ugle-Hagan a huge cash prize when it bids on the Bulldogs’ academy star with the club’s first ever No.1 draft pick. Here's what else is locked in.

                              Adelaide will gift Jamarra Ugle-Hagan a $10,000 cash prize when it bids on the Western Bulldogs’ academy star with the club’s first ever No.1 draft pick tonight.

                              The delighted Bulldogs will match the bid and secure Ugle-Hagan, bumping Adelaide’s pick to No.2 where it will most likely select ruckman Riley Thilthorpe.

                              Ugle-Hagan would become the first Indigenous player crowned as the No.1 draft pick since Des Headland (Brisbane Lions) in 1998.

                              The AFL’s draft sponsor, NAB, confirmed to the Herald Sun earlier this year that it would once again donate a cash prize to the dux of the draft.

                              While the Crows’ bold decision will deny their own player the $10,000,they want to stay true to their draft order which has Ugle-Hagan a nose in front of a group of four teenagers.

                              The money will come as cash instead of as an investment portfolio, as previously believed, and could see Ugle-Hagan become one of the richest teenagers the game has seen next year.

                              Matching the bid will see the Bulldogs’ second and final pick of the draft bumped to the very end.

                              That was a key factor in Adelaide’s thinking — it wanted to knock the Bulldogs to the end of the draft for competitive reasons.

                              The Crows don’t want to risk the Bulldogs taking a player they liked with their second pick, which could come before Adelaide exits the draft should Ugle-Hagan slide.

                              The Crows are confident that relinquishing the their first ever No.1 pick won’t hurt them commercially, given the player it takes at No.2 will still be their highest ever draft choice.

                              That player will still be a marketing goldmine for the powerhouse living in a two-team state and Crows fans can sleep comfortably that their recruiters were true to the talent order.

                              Just about every club agrees that mercurial left-footer Ugle-Hagan is the standout prospect in the draft, despite not playing any football this year due to the COVID-19 pandemic in Victoria.

                              The Bulldogs are also thrilled that, after amassing a bank of draft points to be able to match a No.1 bid, they will walk away with their first top pick since taking Adam Cooney in 2003.
                              I love this. The article suggests Adelaide is concerned we will take a player with our second pick that they might want. After pick 40, Adelaide don't have a pick until 80. So they are happy for us to take the grand prize no 1 pick, tell their no 1 pick they didn't rate him the best in the draft whilst seeing fit to dock him 10k? All this in the fear that they might have someone in mind at 80 that they are concerned we will take at 54? Have I got this wrong?

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                              • Axe Man
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 11494

                                #300
                                Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                                Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                                I love this. The article suggests Adelaide is concerned we will take a player with our second pick that they might want. After pick 40, Adelaide don't have a pick until 80. So they are happy for us to take the grand prize no 1 pick, tell their no 1 pick they didn't rate him the best in the draft whilst seeing fit to dock him 10k? All this in the fear that they might have someone in mind at 80 that they are concerned we will take at 54? Have I got this wrong?
                                The only way it makes sense is if they planning on doing some live pick trading to move some of those picks around. Currently I don't think it matters whether the JUH bid comes at 1,2 or 3 - our second pick will still fall in between their pick 40 and pick 80.

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