2024 Draft Watch

[Mofra]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

My preferences are very similar!

Pick 17 - Berry, Lindsay, Travaglia
Pick 25 - Hannaford. Don?t want anybody else, has to be him
Next pick - Moraes, Gross

I?m also wondering whether we?ll look to WA and SA with our later pick/s. Looking at the prospects rated in that top 30-40 range, they?re almost all from Victoria. Far more than usual. Feels like there may be too much focus on the CTL this year and it?s resulting in the other states potentially being underrated. Guess we?ll see

30-40 range?
I like Luke Urquhart - his kicking action will give people nightmares but he's just a 100% competitor. Clay Smith like in his attack at the contest.

Some suggestion we're into Angus Clarke, SA country kid who had Bailey Dale vibes.

[macca]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

Liam McMahon came second in the VFL goal kicking. Is he worth a look at?

He also won Carlton's VFL B&F. Arriving at the Blues VFL program in 2023 after two seasons at Collingwood, McMahon has cemented his spot in the side as a leader and target in attack.

The 198cm forward’s aerial ability is a focal point for the Blues’ attacking half game, with his flexibility to play down back also a great asset to the side.

I just saw the stats for VFL and I can't believe Billy Gowers won the goal kicking for 2024 !

https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/1644949/mcmahon-wins-vfl-best-and-fairest

https://vfl.aflmstats.com/coleman/2024

[Virgin-Dog]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

30-40 range?
I like Luke Urquhart - his kicking action will give people nightmares but he's just a 100% competitor. Clay Smith like in his attack at the contest.

Some suggestion we're into Angus Clarke, SA country kid who had Bailey Dale vibes.

Urquhart is another I really like. He’s got that great combination of endurance and pace that we seem to value lately, and has a long penetrating kick. Exactly the type I think is going underrated because of the focus on Vic talent this year. Would be happy with him at our 3rd pick

[Virgin-Dog]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

30-40 range?
I like Luke Urquhart - his kicking action will give people nightmares but he's just a 100% competitor. Clay Smith like in his attack at the contest.

Some suggestion we're into Angus Clarke, SA country kid who had Bailey Dale vibes.

Decided to watch more of Urquhart's footage today (haven't watched any of him since early in the national champs) after you brought him up. He's even quicker than I remember, and positions himself really well in congestion when on the offense. Definitely doesn't shy away from contact, he's an animal when ball hunting. He's got a lot of power in his kick just like I recalled but geez... like Bailey Smith, you will see maybe 1 in 5 kicks actually hit a target.

Garcia I'd describe as an unconventional but okay kick. Urquhart is just sloppy. If he can clean up his ball drop, I think he's got the scope to improve there. I'm definitely keen on seeing us pick him up later, especially if we miss Hannaford.

No harm in getting both though - players who go at high intensity, have either pace or agility, and aren't afraid of contact will always be valuable, no matter how the game evolves. Clay Smith, Toby McLean, Liam Picken - these guys could have played senior footy at basically any time in the modern era.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

An update on how some of the players being mentioned so far performed at the Combine.

Hannaford tested at the state combine

Height 180.1
Vertical jump 66
VJ Right 86
VJ Left 69
5mtr 1.077
10mtr 1.775
20mtr 2.954
Agility 7.922
2KM 7.26

Really slow 2k time trial

Lindsay, Hynes and Berry didn't test

Moraes
Height 182.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 74
VJ Left 78
5mtr 1.12
10mtr 1.85
20mtr 3.09
Agility 8.35
2KM 6.25

Urquhart
Height 183.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 83
VJ Left 83
5mtr 1.09
10mtr 1.79
20mtr 2.98
Agility 8.70
2KM 6.25

[Virgin-Dog]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

An update on how some of the players being mentioned so far performed at the Combine.

Hannaford tested at the state combine

Height 180.1
Vertical jump 66
VJ Right 86
VJ Left 69
5mtr 1.077
10mtr 1.775
20mtr 2.954
Agility 7.922
2KM 7.26

Really slow 2k time trial

Lindsay, Hynes and Berry didn't test

Moraes
Height 182.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 74
VJ Left 78
5mtr 1.12
10mtr 1.85
20mtr 3.09
Agility 8.35
2KM 6.25

Urquhart
Height 183.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 83
VJ Left 83
5mtr 1.09
10mtr 1.79
20mtr 2.98
Agility 8.70
2KM 6.25

Thanks for sharing. Surprised Urquhart had the same 2km time trial as Moraes - I knew his endurance was good, but Moraes seems like a workhorse so to get the same time is pretty massive. His kicking must be a huge concern for him to not be rated higher

Hannaford won’t be playing early by looks of it. Still super keen though

[GVGjr]

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Thanks for sharing. Surprised Urquhart had the same 2km time trial as Moraes - I knew his endurance was good, but Moraes seems like a workhorse so to get the same time is pretty massive. His kicking must be a huge concern for him to not be rated higher

Hannaford won’t be playing early by looks of it. Still super keen though

I rate Moraes better than a workhorse but I get what you are saying.

[Mofra]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

An update on how some of the players being mentioned so far performed at the Combine.

Hannaford tested at the state combine

Height 180.1
Vertical jump 66
VJ Right 86
VJ Left 69
5mtr 1.077
10mtr 1.775
20mtr 2.954
Agility 7.922
2KM 7.26

Really slow 2k time trial

Lindsay, Hynes and Berry didn't test

Moraes
Height 182.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 74
VJ Left 78
5mtr 1.12
10mtr 1.85
20mtr 3.09
Agility 8.35
2KM 6.25

Urquhart
Height 183.7
Vertical jump 69
VJ Right 83
VJ Left 83
5mtr 1.09
10mtr 1.79
20mtr 2.98
Agility 8.70
2KM 6.25

Given our recruiting focus, we can rule out Hannaford as a Bulldogs target

[azabob]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

Given our recruiting focus, we can rule out Hannaford as a Bulldogs target

Because of his poor 2km?

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

Given our recruiting focus, we can rule out Hannaford as a Bulldogs target

We have tended to target midfielders who can get to repeat contests so your thoughts probably have some merits
It will be interesting to see if the players we draft have the running profiles.

[kruder]

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Im keen on Hannaford, I wonder what someone like Cam Rayner would have ran the 2km in his draft year?

[Virgin-Dog]

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Im keen on Hannaford, I wonder what someone like Cam Rayner would have ran the 2km in his draft year?

He ran it in 7:57

He was coming back from a knee injury, though his aerobic capacity was terrible, and this was well known his draft year. Took him until his 5th season (missed his 4th with an ACL) to really start to break out

[GVGjr]

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From Code Sports regarding players they think are in the mix for us
With the trade period over, all eyes turn to November’s draft. Experts CHRIS CAVANAGH and DAN BATTEN run through the options for every clubs with the picks they have.

WESTERN BULLDOGS
Current Draft Picks: 17, 25, 35, 48

The Bulldogs gained picks 17 and 25 for losing two quality players in Bailey Smith and Caleb Daniel. However, Smith was sidelined for the entire 2024 season and Daniel fell out of favour – as did traded midfielder Jack Macrae – so their loss isn’t as significant as they look on paper. While pick 17 may become pick 21 by the time bids come in, there should be no shortage of options for their first choice – and at picks 25 and 35.
Forward-midfielder Taj Hotton faces a delayed start to 2025 after an ACL but is an exciting talent.
Xavier Lindsay would be a nice fit as a defender or inside or outside midfielder if he is still on the board, while half impact players Jesse Dattoli and Cooper Hynes should be around the mark at their first two selections.
Oakleigh Charger Tom Gross and Eastern Ranger Christian Moraes were both touted as top-10 picks at the start of the season and could both prove to be steals in the second round, while late-season bolter Ollie Hannaford has shown he can use his speed in a variety of roles, particularly as a dangerous small forward.
Or the Bulldogs could look to arguably the best pure small defender in the draft in Harry Oliver at 25, with fellow rebounders Lachie Jaques and Angus Clarke other options for their second or third pick.
List boss Sam Power said they are open to trading selections on draft night so don’t be surprised to see the Bulldogs get creative.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

I wonder if someone like Hamish Davis from WA could be in the mix for us? Given some of the phantom drafts perhaps not with our first selection.
Plays in the midfield and up forward and is very competitive with his marking.

Height 190.2
Vertical jump 62
VJ Right 60
VJ Left 73
5mtr 1.14
10mtr 1.87
20mtr 3.13
Agility 8.55
2KM 6.18

[mjp]

Re: 2024 Draft Watch

I wonder if someone like Hamish Davis from WA could be in the mix for us? Given some of the phantom drafts perhaps not with our first selection.

Kicked 4-goals in a final at senior level vs the reigning premiers.

Forget the athletic measurables...that's a fair effort.