Minister of Trades

[chef]

Re: Minister of Trades

I don't think Knights will be able to take the ruck burden if Hudson happened to go down.

Roughead needs to show that his shoulders are right before you can rely on him.

I would take that chance if it meant we could get a player of Knights ability into our forward line next year and than look to add a ruck through the rookie list or with a late pick. But this is all pipe stuff as I don't rate Minson that highly and I do wonder why Adelaide would want him.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Minister of Trades

I would take that chance if it meant we could get a player of Knights ability into our forward line next year and than look to add a ruck through the rookie list or with a late pick. But this is all pipe stuff as I don't rate Minson that highly and I do wonder why Adelaide would want him.

Because they know he is better than any ruckman they have got.


Too many Bulldog fans do not appreciate Will.



Will is 25 - ready to hit his prime.

Will is a GOOD ruckman and has only stagnated in 2010 because of the interruptions to his season. He was just showing good form when he did the ankle against Hawthorn.

Knights would be good to get, but a swap for Will is too high a price. Happy to trade Everitt or Hill and even throw in Tiller as an extra.

[SlimPickens]

Re: Minister of Trades

But the problem here is that Roughead frequently gets injured, Cordy is a stick figure who is always injured and Prato has played one full season ever and is only just pushing his way towards the Williamstown seniors. If we had to call on any of them for the whole season I think our ruck division would be a weakness, and as Johnson and West have shown, players bodies can go downhill very quickly.

I would only support trading Minson if we got someone of at least Skipper's ability as a backup for our rucks.

That's my first laugh of the day, thanks for that. I hear what your saying just think Knights could be a good fit for the club.

[chef]

Re: Minister of Trades

Because they know he is better than any ruckman they have got.


Too many Bulldog fans do not appreciate Will.



Will is 25 - ready to hit his prime.

Will is a GOOD ruckman and has only stagnated in 2010 because of the interruptions to his season. He was just showing good form when he did the ankle against Hawthorn.

Knights would be good to get, but a swap for Will is too high a price. Happy to trade Everitt or Hill and even throw in Tiller as an extra.

Fair enough, except for the bit about giving them Everitt or Hill for Knights. If you want quality you have to give up some too.

Do you think Will will be happy being third fiddle for at least the next two seasons?

[Desipura]

Re: Minister of Trades

Because they know he is better than any ruckman they have got.


Too many Bulldog fans do not appreciate Will.



Will is 25 - ready to hit his prime.

Will is a GOOD ruckman and has only stagnated in 2010 because of the interruptions to his season. He was just showing good form when he did the ankle against Hawthorn.

Knights would be good to get, but a swap for Will is too high a price. Happy to trade Everitt or Hill and even throw in Tiller as an extra.

Oh, you are too kind. hahaha

[Topdog]

Re: Minister of Trades

Because they know he is better than any ruckman they have got.

Too many Bulldog fans do not appreciate Will.

Will is 25 - ready to hit his prime.

Will is a GOOD ruckman and has only stagnated in 2010 because of the interruptions to his season. He was just showing good form when he did the ankle against Hawthorn.

Knights would be good to get, but a swap for Will is too high a price. Happy to trade Everitt or Hill and even throw in Tiller as an extra.

Agree with the bolded. Will is under appreciated.

However don't you think you are selling Knights a bit short and perhaps overrating Hill and Everitt by quite a bit.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Minister of Trades

Fair enough, except for the bit about giving them Everitt or Hill for Knights. If you want quality you have to give up some too.

Do you think Will will be happy being third fiddle for at least the next two seasons?

I do see that as the big issue with Roughy and Will probably vying for the same spot. They also give cover for Hall as Roughy particularly could step up if Barry went down.

Just need to have Will's aggression available. Perhaps more rotation on a week to week basis can give Hall, Hudson, Minson and Roughead games while maximising the chances of Hudson and Hall getting through the season. Effectively giving each of the 4 1 week out of the senior side each month if all are fit.

Minson and Roughead could then play at Williamstown for continuity but Hall and Hudson would be rested for preservation through the season.

[chef]

Re: Minister of Trades

I do see that as the big issue with Roughy and Will probably vying for the same spot. They also give cover for Hall as Roughy particularly could step up if Barry went down.

Just need to have Will's aggression available. Perhaps more rotation on a week to week basis can give Hall, Hudson, Minson and Roughead games while maximising the chances of Hudson and Hall getting through the season. Effectively giving each of the 4 1 week out of the senior side each month if all are fit.

Minson and Roughead could then play at Williamstown for continuity but Hall and Hudson would be rested for preservation through the season.

Fair enough, I guess if another team gets in his ear about being their number 1 every week it might be Willie who is the one pushing for the trade.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Minister of Trades

Knights would be good to get, but a swap for Will is too high a price. Happy to trade Everitt or Hill and even throw in Tiller as an extra.

I agree, and there's no way I'd go for that Kurt Tippett for James Mulligan trade either. We really need a developing full back.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Re: Minister of Trades

I agree, and there's no way I'd go for that Kurt Tippett for James Mulligan trade either. We really need a developing full back.

Post of the year.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Minister of Trades

I agree, and there's no way I'd go for that Kurt Tippett for James Mulligan trade either. We really need a developing full back.

Well SS I do concede that Knights is worth more than Everitt but not a whole lot more. We don't have picks to trade. Maybe Everitt and Hill combined would do it.

Knights has not strung games together. His value is based on form in 09 when the Crows were hot. He has had an injury interrupted year.
What is his real injury problem?

I don't think we are in the hunt anyway as he seems to be valued a little too highly and I doubt we will have enough salary cap room when you compare what is likely on offer from Carlton and Essendon.

[Sockeye Salmon]

Re: Minister of Trades

Well SS I do concede that Knights is worth more than Everitt but not a whole lot more. We don't have picks to trade. Maybe Everitt and Hill combined would do it.

Knights has not strung games together. His value is based on form in 09 when the Crows were hot. He has had an injury interrupted year.
What is his real injury problem?

I don't think we are in the hunt anyway as he seems to be valued a little too highly and I doubt we will not have enough salary cap room when you compare what is likely on offer from Carlton and Essendon.

You were speaking about Will rather than Everitt, but whatever.

With the amount of time Minson, Everitt and Hill have spent at Willi this year they can all only be described as fringe players.

No-one trades a seriously good player like Knights for fringe players, no matter how many of them you bundle up. The last time this paid off was when Sydney traded John Pitura to Richmond for Graham Teasdale, Francis Jackson and Whale Roberts.

[GVGjr]

Re: Minister of Trades

Matt Rosa WCE is reportedly looking for a change of clubs, would definately consider as he can dispose of it, and has good pace, more of an outside player.

Alwyn Davey & Leeroy Jetta remained unsigned, definately either of the 2 would address our lack of goalsneak.
Chris Knights - no brainer
Matt Campbell Nth

Rosa is a good player and he was the one I was hoping we would draft when we took Jesse Wells.

[mighty_west]

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Matt Rosa WCE is reportedly looking for a change of clubs, would definately consider as he can dispose of it, and has good pace, more of an outside player.

Alwyn Davey & Leeroy Jetta remained unsigned, definately either of the 2 would address our lack of goalsneak.
Chris Knights - no brainer
Matt Campbell Nth

I wonder if Leeroy could be a decent replacement for Harbrow off a half back & run in the midfield? I haven't seen to much of him to know of he could play as that small forward or on a half back, but was impressed with his game against us in the middle.

[Bulldog Joe]

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You were speaking about Will rather than Everitt, but whatever.

With the amount of time Minson, Everitt and Hill have spent at Willi this year they can all only be described as fringe players.
No-one trades a seriously good player like Knights for fringe players, no matter how many of them you bundle up. The last time this paid off was when Sydney traded John Pitura to Richmond for Graham Teasdale, Francis Jackson and Whale Roberts.

Sorry but Will does not meet the criteria of fringe player.

He is already a 100 game player with the likelihood of another 100 to come. He only ended up at Willi because of his interrupted pre-season and subsequent injury after his return.

He still played more games in 2010 than Knights so Knights is a fringe player on your definition.

A direct swap of Minson for Knights would be too much to pay.