2013 draft watch

[LostDoggy]

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Jason McCartney was at the Glenelg match today, presumably having a looksie at Matt Scharenberg and a few others.

How's Jake Pitt going?

[Throughandthrough]

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How's Jake Pitt going?

Very good

Having said that, his older brother Craig Pitt (about 20 years old) has been on fire as an attacking half back flanker the last month, destroyed Graham Johncock yesterday. Must be a silly chance to be a mature age recruit. There's plenty of blokes on AFL lists that arent as good as Craig Pitt.

Jake's still a work in progress, good height needs to beef up yet.

[bulldogtragic]

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Draft camp invites have been announced btw. Players should all know Monday.

Just published on channel 9.

[mjp]

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Just reading all of the comments on 20m times etc (whilst watching the game!) and I would ask one really simple question.

Of all of the physical tests, which one has the greatest correlation with successful AFL careers?

Most clubs look at one number and one number only and use it as a comparative selection tool. In other words, we cannot split these two but this one has a better result in 'x' and therefore we should take them. There are two studies I know of now looking at trying to correlate draft camp results and games played so we might have a better idea in 12-24 months on what tests actually matter.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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Pick 3 is no more!!

[azabob]

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Just reading all of the comments on 20m times etc (whilst watching the game!) and I would ask one really simple question.

Of all of the physical tests, which one has the greatest correlation with successful AFL careers?

Most clubs look at one number and one number only and use it as a comparative selection tool. In other words, we cannot split these two but this one has a better result in 'x' and therefore we should take them. There are two studies I know of now looking at trying to correlate draft camp results and games played so we might have a better idea in 12-24 months on what tests actually matter.

I assume that number is club dependent?

[GVGjr]

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Just reading all of the comments on 20m times etc (whilst watching the game!) and I would ask one really simple question.

Of all of the physical tests, which one has the greatest correlation with successful AFL careers?

While it depends on the type of player (Midfielder or KPP) the two I like to look at are the agility test and the repeat sprints. From memory Macrae tested poorly on the repeat sprints which shows that I might be looking at the wrong thing

[mjp]

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I don't know. Most clubs I have spoken too only look at 20m time or vertical jump - truest test of athletic potential. Beyond that they are more interested in bad numbers than in good ones if that makes sense. I would still like to know if there is any correlation though...am sure clubs have looked at the data but no info I have been able to find.

[soupman]

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Surely it completely varies based on a players position.

[Go_Dogs]

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I don't know. Most clubs I have spoken too only look at 20m time or vertical jump - truest test of athletic potential. Beyond that they are more interested in bad numbers than in good ones if that makes sense. I would still like to know if there is any correlation though...am sure clubs have looked at the data but no info I have been able to find.

Great insight mjp, thanks for sharing. Would be very interested to know the outcome of those studies you referred to above upon their completion.

I think there is some merit in those 2 stats being the most critical as you'd like to think things like endurance can be improved over time in an AFL environment, improving raw speed, particularly off the mark, is not as easy and it's the same with the vertical leap. As you say, both are great indicators for athletic potential so the approach makes a lot of sense to me.

[LostDoggy]

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While it depends on the type of player (Midfielder or KPP) the two I like to look at are the agility test and the repeat sprints. From memory Macrae tested poorly on the repeat sprints which shows that I might be looking at the wrong thing

Players who test well with agility Dahlhaus, Ablett, Cotchin, Hunter etc.
I like the agility test.

[bulldogtragic]

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EVERY PLAYER INVITED TO THE NATIONAL DRAFT COMBINE

VIC COUNTRY
Isaiah Miller, Bendigo Pioneers
James Harmes, Dandenong Stingrays
Billy Hartung, Dandenong Stingrays
Zak Jones, Dandenong Stingrays
Nick Bourke, Geelong Falcons
Aaron Christensen, Geelong Falcons
Fraser Fort, Geelong Falcons
Darcy Gardiner, Geelong Falcons
Darcy Lang, Geelong Falcons
Lewis Taylor, Geelong Falcons
James Tsitas, Geelong Falcons
Jack Leslie, Gippsland Power
Nathan Drummond, Murray Bushrangers
Nick Holman, Murray Bushrangers
Jarman Impey, Murray Bushrangers
Sam Bennett, North Ballarat Rebels
Matt Crouch, North Ballarat Rebels
Louis Herbert, North Ballarat Rebels
Dallas Willsmore, North Ballarat Rebels

VIC METRO
Michael Apeness, Eastern Ranges
Tom Boyd, Eastern Ranges
Mitch Honeychurch, Eastern Ranges
Daniel McStay, Eastern Ranges
Marcus Bontempelli, Northern Knights
Cameron Conlon, Northern Knights
Ben Lennon, Northern Knights
Jack Billings, Oakleigh Chargers
Darcy Byrne-Jones, Oakleigh Chargers
Tom Cutler, Oakleigh Chargers
Aiden Franetic, Oakleigh Chargers
Jay Kennedy-Harris, Oakleigh Chargers
Will Maginness, Oakleigh Chargers
Karl Amon, Sandringham Dragons
Nathan Freeman, Sandringham Dragons
Josh Kelly, Sandringham Dragons
Tom Langdon, Sandringham Dragons
Zac Merrett, Sandringham Dragons
Christian Salem, Sandringham Dragons
Alex Spencer, Sandringham Dragons
James Sicily, Western Jets

VFL
Sam Lloyd, Frankston
Chris Cain, Port Melbourne
Ben Brown, Werribee
Luke McDonald, Werribee/Oakleigh Chargers

SOUTH AUSTRALIA
Josh Glenn, Central Districts
Jake Pitt, Glenelg
MatthewScharenberg, Glenelg
Nathan Gordon, North Adelaide
Mitch Harvey, North Adelaide
George Hewett, North Adelaide
Alex Spina, North Adelaide
James Aish, Norwood
Trent Dumont, Norwood
Orazio Fantasia, Norwood
Sean Lemmens, Port Adelaide
Luke Reynolds, Port Adelaide
Darcy Hourigan, South Adelaide
James Battersby, Sturt
Dwayne Wilson, Sturt
Zac Bates, West Adelaide
Luke Dunstan, Woodville West Torrens
Cameron Giles, Woodville West Torrens
Malcolm Karpany, Woodville West Torrens
Riley Knight, Woodville West Torrens

WESTERN AUSTRALIA
Tom Barrass, Claremont
Darcy Cameron, Claremont
Steven Edwards, Claremont
RichardBourne, East Fremantle
PatrickCripps, East Fremantle
Jarrad Jansen, East Fremantle
Jonathon Marsh, East Fremantle
Thomas Hodgson, East Perth
Blaine Johnson, South Fremantle
Dylan Main, South Fremantle
CameronMcCarthy, South Fremantle
Tom Vandeleuer, South Fremantle
Dom Sheed, Subiaco
MichaelWood, Subiaco
CharlieCameron, Swan Districts
Dayle Garlett, Swan Districts
Rory Lobb, Swan Districts
Blake Acres, West Perth
Nick Robertson, West Perth

NEW SOUTH WALES/ACT
Jake Barrett, Temora
Kieran Ellis, Murray Bushrangers
Michael Gibbons, Murray Bushrangers
Max King, Murray Bushrangers

NORTHERN TERRITORY
Daniel Cox, Southern Districts
Errin Wasley-Black, NT Thunder

QUEENSLAND
Jonathan Freeman, Aspley
Archie Smith, Mt Gravatt

TASMANIA
Brady Grey, Burnie Dockers
Kade Kolodjashnij, Launceston
Jake Kolodjashnij, Launceston
Toby Nankervis, North Launceston
Alex Pearce, Devonport
Eli Templeton, Burnie Dockers
Zac Webster, Glenorchy

[bulldogtragic]

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Herald Sun

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clubs-want-another-look-at-dayle-garlett-with-the-talent-invited-to-the-national-draft-combine/story-fnelctok-1226687488269

ANY doubt over whether recruiters are seriously looking at Dayle Garlett just eight months after he was overlooked by all 18 clubs has been washed away with the gun West Australian invited to draft camp.

After winning the trust of WAFL club Swan Districts back earlier this year, Garlett has lit up the state league with 37 goals from 14 senior games while averaging 17 disposals.

The mercurial talent was shunned in 2012 after a season wrecked by off-field indiscretions.

SuperFooty revealed in April that Garlett was back on the draft radar.

He was axed from the AIS-AFL Academy before photos of him drinking and smoking emerged on social media to further damage his reputation.

After missing out at the national draft, Essendon invited Garlett to train at Windy Hill on the premise it would consider handing him a lifeline should he show the necessary commitment.

But the Dons overlooked Garlett after he went on a 4am bender in Perth only three days before the pre-season draft.

Garlett, who is again rated in the top 10 players on talent alone, then knocked back invitations to join the VFL, instead opting to stay at WAFL club Swan Districts this year.

A total of 98 players have been invited to the national draft combine after earning nominations from a handful of AFL clubs.

[Throughandthrough]

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Nathan Gordon from North Adelaide is an interesting one. Is a mature age, ex Swan. Is ruckman height, and has been playing up forward and on the ball for North, has been a stand out in teh SANFL. Has kicked a few bags.

[LostDoggy]

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Clubs having nother look at mature-ager Nathan Gordon ex-Sydney Swans.

Only 3 players invited from the VFL. Ben Brown doesn't strike me as having the work rate or attitude (some interesting comments posted on Facebook after a match earlier this year in the Foxtel Cup) to make it at AFL level. Weird kicking style also.