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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #16
    Re: 2017 Tour of India

    Originally posted by Sedat
    Is Swepson the latest Warne anointed future superstar spinner after Michael Beer and Muirhead?
    Yep. He was into Zampa and Ahmed as well wasn't he?
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #17
      Re: 2017 Tour of India

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Trevor Hohns has just announced the team to tour India. 4 spin bowlers including Mitchell Swepson with Shaun Marsh, Mitch Marsh and Glenn Maxwell replacing Hilton Cartwright from the last test against Pakistan.

      Squad: Steve Smith (c), David Warner (vc), Ashton Agar, Jackson Bird, Peter Handscomb, Josh Hazlewood, Usman Khawaja, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Marsh, Shaun Marsh, Glenn Maxwell, Stephen O’Keefe, Matthew Renshaw, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, Matthew Wade

      I'm glad they kept Renshaw in the squad but I just feel that Shaun Marsh will replace him at the top of the order.
      Why drop M. Marsh in the first place, and then why play Cartright in Sydney only to dump Cartright and bring M. Marsh back in??
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      • jeemak
        Bulldog Legend
        • Oct 2010
        • 21843

        #18
        Re: 2017 Tour of India

        I'm a touch tired of having M. Marsh shoved in my face....
        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 44711

          #19
          Re: 2017 Tour of India

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Why drop M. Marsh in the first place, and then why play Cartright in Sydney only to dump Cartright and bring M. Marsh back in??
          It doesn't make much sense unless we are strong in the belief we will play 2 pace bowlers supported by Mitch Marsh.

          It's difficult to work out how we will settle down an 11 but what has Marsh done to earn a potential recall to the 11?
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          • Sedat
            Hall of Fame
            • Sep 2007
            • 11277

            #20
            Re: 2017 Tour of India

            I'm not going to be an apologist for the Australian selectors and their frankly bizarre methods, but M Marsh is a better option as a 3rd seamer than Cartwright for this tour. Let's just stop pretending to call him an all-rounder because he is a bowler who can bat a bit. Why then select Bird for the tour if that's the case? He won't play much at all unless Starc and Hazlewood break down, and Marsh is the seam cover in any event. This is no reflection on Bird at all - he is clearly the 3rd best seamer in the country but it is purely a horses for courses selection to suit the conditions. The pitches will be dry spinning dustbowls, you can bet your bottom dollar on that.

            Fawad Ahmed is the red-hot form spinner in the country and is desperately unlucky not to be in this squad. I know his current form is in T20 and not FC but that hasn't bothered the selectors in the past. He has subtle variations and the necessary experience in sub-continental conditions to test the Indian batsmen - he has also been spectacularly successful in FC cricket the last 3 years (when he gets picked anyway). Swepson and Agar are far too inexperienced and will not trouble the Indian batsmen at all, and whilst I get Maxwell being selected I'm not sure his spin will keep the Indians up all night either - Lyon will struggle on this tour as well, being a conventional off-spinner who relies on true bounce. O'Keeffe will be the most effective spinner on this tour for Australia IMO - his skidding low arm action will bring LBW into play far more than the other options.
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11277

              #21
              Re: 2017 Tour of India

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Yep. He was into Zampa and Ahmed as well wasn't he?
              Not so much these two, but he was heavily spruiking both Beer and Muirhead in the past - I don't even know where Muirhead is playing these days.

              That's not to say Swepson is a dud but I wouldn't carry too much weight in what Warne says.
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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #22
                Re: 2017 Tour of India

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Not so much these two, but he was heavily spruiking both Beer and Muirhead in the past - I don't even know where Muirhead is playing these days.

                That's not to say Swepson is a dud but I wouldn't carry too much weight in what Warne says.
                Warne last summer was going on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on about selecting the opener from WA. Then when asked a few weeks later he said that he hadn't actually ever seen him at all. He should stick to talking about his knowledge of actual spin bowling he's physically watching at a game or dirty and greasy pizzas and toasted cheese sandwiches, that's a of the few things he can talk about with credibility in a PG15 time slot.
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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27658

                  #23
                  Re: 2017 Tour of India

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Not so much these two, but he was heavily spruiking both Beer and Muirhead in the past - I don't even know where Muirhead is playing these days.

                  That's not to say Swepson is a dud but I wouldn't carry too much weight in what Warne says.

                  I think he just likes Beer's surname more than his bowling action.


                  Then again if anyone is qualified to talk about weight then it's Warnie.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6528

                    #24
                    Re: 2017 Tour of India

                    The reasoning that Mitch Marsh is a better bowler doesn't make much sense when you have Faulkner sitting on the sidelines. It's time M Marsh gets a decent run at domestic cricket

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                    • Topdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7471

                      #25
                      Re: 2017 Tour of India

                      Watching the Big Bash and seeing Watson bowling it's obvious why we desperately want that 5th bowling option from an all rounder

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66843

                        #26
                        Re: 2017 Tour of India

                        Originally posted by Topdog
                        Watching the Big Bash and seeing Watson bowling it's obvious why we desperately want that 5th bowling option from an all rounder
                        As long as it is not Watson.
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                        • Ozza
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 6402

                          #27
                          Re: 2017 Tour of India

                          Watson was a tremendous limited overs cricketer for Australia.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66843

                            #28
                            Re: 2017 Tour of India

                            Originally posted by Ozza
                            Watson was a tremendous limited overs cricketer for Australia.
                            Yes he was but those days are finished.
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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6402

                              #29
                              Re: 2017 Tour of India

                              Agree.

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                              • Greystache
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9775

                                #30
                                Re: 2017 Tour of India

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                Yes he was but those days are finished.
                                Given he's retired I don't think it's a major concern.
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