2023 Tour of India

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  • jeemak
    Bulldog Legend
    • Oct 2010
    • 21834

    Re: 2023 Tour of India

    Well at least the selectors have demonstrated how clever they can be yet again.
    TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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    • lemmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Nov 2008
      • 6522

      Re: 2023 Tour of India

      I'd like to see Warner have a go here. This version of David Warner - playing within himself, letting the game happen in front of him, giving too much respect to the bowler - isn't usually a recipe for runs. This is the best time to bat in the game, I'd like to see him given the license to take it on.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66739

        Re: 2023 Tour of India

        Originally posted by lemmon
        I'd like to see Warner have a go here. This version of David Warner - playing within himself, letting the game happen in front of him, giving too much respect to the bowler - isn't usually a recipe for runs. This is the best time to bat in the game, I'd like to see him given the license to take it on.
        Cummins did say he wants to see the batters take them on.
        Last edited by Bornadog; 17-02-2023, 03:52 PM. Reason: typo
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        • lemmon
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Nov 2008
          • 6522

          Re: 2023 Tour of India

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Cummings did say he wants to see the batters take them on.
          I reckon it's player and situation dependent, but we're not in England where hanging around the crease is at least taking the shine off the ball and protecting the middle order, and he isn't a Steve Smith who seems to improve with time at the crease. This just feels like David Warner is a sitting duck and the only way he's been able to get out of it through his career is to throw caution to the wind.

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11184

            Re: 2023 Tour of India

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Cummings did say he wants to see the batters take them on.
            Tsk, tsk, I expected better from you BAD.

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11184

              Re: 2023 Tour of India

              Originally posted by lemmon
              I reckon it's player and situation dependent, but we're not in England where hanging around the crease is at least taking the shine off the ball and protecting the middle order, and he isn't a Steve Smith who seems to improve with time at the crease. This just feels like David Warner is a sitting duck and the only way he's been able to get out of it through his career is to throw caution to the wind.
              Agreed. A quick fire 50, even 30 would be better than what feels like an inevitable dismissal coming soon.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66739

                Re: 2023 Tour of India

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                Tsk, tsk, I expected better from you BAD.
                sorry, stupid spell check. I hate names being misspelled
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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11184

                  Re: 2023 Tour of India

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  I think Kasper was saying that the last time we went into a game with just one quick was in 98.
                  Against Bangladesh in 2017 we played Cummins, Lyon, O'Keefe and Agar, although Hilton Cartwright was in the side for some medium pace (and Glenn Maxwell).

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6522

                    Re: 2023 Tour of India

                    It's worrying that Siraj has managed to hit Warner a couple of times on what's a pretty slow and placid pitch. He really needs to sharpen up his decision making - he's half wanting to play, half wanting to sway out of the way and is all over the shop.

                    This is fun Test cricket though - Ashwin has Khawaja trapped on the crease, Khawaja dances down to loft over mid-off for 6 and land a blow of his own, Ashwin responds with a quicker one that grips and beats Khawaja outside off-stump. Really high quality cricket and there's some good cat and mouse going on.

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11184

                      Re: 2023 Tour of India

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      sorry, stupid spell check. I hate names being misspelled
                      Having a first name and surname that frequently get misspelled, so do I!

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11184

                        Re: 2023 Tour of India

                        Originally posted by lemmon
                        It's worrying that Siraj has managed to hit Warner a couple of times on what's a pretty slow and placid pitch. He really needs to sharpen up his decision making - he's half wanting to play, half wanting to sway out of the way and is all over the shop.

                        This is fun Test cricket though - Ashwin has Khawaja trapped on the crease, Khawaja dances down to loft over mid-off for 6 and land a blow of his own, Ashwin responds with a quicker one that grips and beats Khawaja outside off-stump. Really high quality cricket and there's some good cat and mouse going on.
                        Do you think it's a lack of decisiveness on Warner's part or are his reflexes waning with age?

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44661

                          Re: 2023 Tour of India

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Well at least the selectors have demonstrated how clever they can be yet again.
                          Lets fact it that's what it's all about.
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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66739

                            Re: 2023 Tour of India

                            Warner gone for 15 off 44 balls
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                            • lemmon
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 6522

                              Re: 2023 Tour of India

                              Originally posted by Axe Man
                              Do you think it's a lack of decisiveness on Warner's part or are his reflexes waning with age?
                              It looked like shot selection to me. He seemed to be picking up the ball but there was a lack of decisiveness in how he'd play it. To be fair to him, Siraj has a mean bouncer - he worried Khawaja with a good one as well.

                              Warner is an interesting one - he doesn't look 'bad' - I think his footwork and his hands still look pretty good, but he just nicks off. It's a bit different to someone like Ricky Ponting or Matthew Hayden who both looked cooked by the end. I think it's time to make the change, but I reckon a good portion of it with Warner is where he's at mentally.

                              I'm more sympathetic to Warner than most and would've liked him to hang them up at the end of the Aussie summer, but the bloke hasn't been out of the first few pages of the paper in 4 years (a lot of that his own fault), and it sounds like he's done with the 'Cricket Aus institution'. I do understand why he's done mentally - as he's said himself.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44661

                                Re: 2023 Tour of India

                                Marnus and then Smith goes cheaply.
                                We've got a bit of work to do.
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