ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

[LostDoggy]

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I love this. Great to see the heat going on to the club and the responsible officials moreso than the players.

Hope they get a whopping great fine, which will strengthen any claims for any of the (ex)players also.

It beggars belief that the whole club's management/football department wasn't gutted immediately after this programme came to light. Bombres want this over with, they've got years of pain coming.

[josie]

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Worksafe have an 85% success rate with prosecutions, that and the fact they have been working on this for a year or more indicates to me EFC are very, very likely to be found guilty.

[Greystache]

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HS reporting a maximum fine of $305K. Pocket change compared to how much Sir Jimmy has cost them overall!!

[Sedat]

Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

Hal Hunter last seen licking his lips.

[Twodogs]

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HS reporting a maximum fine of $305K. Pocket change compared to how much Sir Jimmy has cost them overall!!

X 2, won't it?

[Twodogs]

Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

I love this. Great to see the heat going on to the club and the responsible officials moreso than the players.

Hope they get a whopping great fine, which will strengthen any claims for any of the (ex)players also.

It beggars belief that the whole club's management/football department wasn't gutted immediately after this programme came to light. Bombres want this over with, they've got years of pain coming.

They'll be briefing solicitors as we speak I reckon. They're addicted to briefing lawyers. "The lawyers will sort this out. That always works for us"

Like you say they should have gutted the footy department and started again at the beginning. Not the players but the vile turds who used them as test dummys and those who stood by while they did it. It's pretty much whats happened in the end.

[westdog54]

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Not before time either. The Ziggy report basicly admits their guilt, so I wonder if they will take their medicine or turn this into another circus...?

The tone of their press release screams of a guilty plea coming up on this one.

The AFL can't manufacture an outcome in the Magistrate's Court.

[Bulldog4life]

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The thread that keeps on giving and giving me satisfaction

[Twodogs]

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The tone of their press release screams of a guilty plea coming up on this one.

The AFL can't manufacture an outcome in the Magistrate's Court.

I wouldn't bet on it. But you are right they have to cop it on the chin on this one.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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The thread that keeps on giving and giving me satisfaction

Unless Crameri cops two years. They only have 13 of the original 32 players left at their crooked club and their window has already been slammed shut. Ourselves and Port Adelaide stand to lose the most in that respect at present.

[LostDoggy]

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Unless Crameri cops two years. They only have 13 of the original 32 players left at their crooked club and their window has already been slammed shut. Ourselves and Port Adelaide stand to lose the most in that respect at present.

I'm pretty sure that any suspensions given to players are backdated. Any time out of the game will be minimal, if anything at all. Cronulla players were all penalised and effectively missed 3 weeks. For mine, their systematic abuses were worse than Essendons.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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I'm pretty sure that any suspensions given to players are backdated. Any time out of the game will be minimal, if anything at all. Cronulla players were all penalised and effectively missed 3 weeks. For mine, their systematic abuses were worse than Essendons.

Aren't Wada a different kettle of fish? The Cronulla players all took a guilty deal with Asada, there will be no such deal this time around. I am not sure how they could backdate it, aside going back to the last game that they played.

[LostDoggy]

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Aren't Wada a different kettle of fish? The Cronulla players all took a guilty deal with Asada, there will be no such deal this time around. I am not sure how they could backdate it, aside going back to the last game that they played.

I am not sure, but my understanding is that WADA and ASADA operate from similar charters (ASADA, although autonomous, being essentially the Australian arm of a worldwide body). Usually, worldwide, penalties start from the time infraction notices are first handed out (in this case November 2014).

After pleading guilty, the Cronulla players were given a 12 month ban, but after backdating effectively missed 3 games each.

Because this case is so convoluted and as ASADA, then WADA, were involved it is not straightforward, but all precedents indicate that significant backdating is more likely than not. Players, including Crameri, did already sit out several months from Nov 2014 to Mar 2015, so a full 2 year penalty seems highly unlikely.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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I will happily watch another season "destroyed' by the Essendon supplements scandal. HAPPILY!

Curse them.

[westdog54]

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I am not sure, but my understanding is that WADA and ASADA operate from similar charters (ASADA, although autonomous, being essentially the Australian arm of a worldwide body). Usually, worldwide, penalties start from the time infraction notices are first handed out (in this case November 2014).

After pleading guilty, the Cronulla players were given a 12 month ban, but after backdating effectively missed 3 games each.

Because this case is so convoluted and as ASADA, then WADA, were involved it is not straightforward, but all precedents indicate that significant backdating is more likely than not. Players, including Crameri, did already sit out several months from Nov 2014 to Mar 2015, so a full 2 year penalty seems highly unlikely.

The key words in the Cronulla case being "pleading guilty".

When you fight the legal process every step of the way you lose any hope of a discount if you're found guilty.