ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14487

    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

    Maybe we are eyeing off one or two to recruit at the end of the year and want them to feel we are supporting them.
    Mind games ??
    Bring back the biff

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    • Topdog
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 7471

      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Link?

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67330

        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

        Originally posted by Topdog
        Pretty sure someone from our club has come out saying the players didnt do anything wrong.
        I didn't take what he said was about the drug taking, but rather the environment the players operate under.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Topdog
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2007
          • 7471

          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

          Originally posted by bornadog
          I didn't take what he said was about the drug taking, but rather the environment the players operate under.
          He said the players were victims, all 34 of them. I disagree with him.

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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

            Originally posted by Topdog
            He said the players were victims, all 34 of them. I disagree with him.
            Victims of the fascist regime at Bummerland.

            You will do as we tell you and no-one will disobey and question why and what it is we are doing and giving to you.
            If any one questions us or our decisions we will have no hesitation but to cut you loose and throw you under the bus.

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            • ledge
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2007
              • 14487

              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

              They were victims of the Hird drug experiment, but did nothing to question it sadly.
              Bring back the biff

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11319

                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                Banned Essendon players could be convinced to walk out on club with rivals circling

                MICHAEL Hurley is being urged to walk from Essendon and the lure could as much as $900,000 a season.

                Up to six clubs have spoken to Hurley’s manager Paul Connors about invoking a previously unused clause in the player contract which would allow the banned Hurley to leave Essendon and join the club of his choice.

                All 12 suspended Essendon players - who could become delisted free agents if they choose - could use the same trigger to leave Essendon.

                The Bombers are confident the suspended players will recommit to the club, but sources told the Herald Sun this week Hurley was reconsidering his future.

                That’s not to say Hurley definitely wants out, but that he’s not 100 per cent committed to the club as he was six weeks ago.

                If 25-year-old Hurley did decide he wanted out, the Bombers could either agree to it, which is unlikely, or fight.

                A grievance process and, if needed, a grievance tribunal chaired by Federal Court judge, Professor Geoffrey Giudice, would follow.

                Giudice’s tribunal deputy is retired County Court judge Murray Kellam and the panel supporting them comprises David Maddocks, Michael Moncrief and Kevin Power.

                The AFL refused to discuss potential cases.

                “Under the collective bargaining agreement any player in the competition who has a grievance with their club has the right to have that grievance aired through the processes of the grievance tribunal as agreed under the CBA between the AFL and the player group,” an AFL spokesman told the Herald Sun.

                Hurley is contracted until the end of 2017 and for him to leave he would need to argue there was a fundamental breach of his contract at the Bombers.

                Hurley, named All-Australian in 2015 and runner-up in the club’s best and fairest, and his teammates were suspended for 12 months for using the banned peptide Thymosin Beta-4.

                In November, Essendon pleaded guilty to two charges laid by WorkSafe Victoria for breaching the Occupational Health and Safety (OHS) Act over its handling of the 2012 supplements program.

                Lawyers’ advice to several player managers and the AFL Players’ Association is the players would have a strong case for breach of contract.

                The clubs inquiring about Hurley have been told he’s likely to stay a Bomber, but their interest will remain strong.

                The clubs have made it known that a salary between $750,000 and as much as $900,000 would be available, plus a fresh environment to restart his career.

                The Herald Sun has learnt that midfielders David Myers and Travis Colyer have also had interest from rival clubs.

                Already, Cale Hooker has been offered a long-term deal from Fremantle, although the Bombers are prepared to offer Hooker a new contract at around $750,000 per season.

                Dyson Heppell is tipped to the next captain of the Bombers and tipped to stay, but clubs will investigate his availability.

                It’s believed the AFLPA would strongly support any player who wanted to leave the Bombers and would also support that player leaving without a trade being organised between the Bombers and the new club.

                Effectively, Essendon would receive nothing in return.

                Former Essendon player Patrick Ryder threatened to activate the delisted free agent clause in a bid to move to Port Adelaide at the end of the 2014 season, but the clubs eventually agreed to a trade.

                Essendon’s situation is complex. It is dealing with 12 suspended players, 34 in total who are seeking compensation and the possibility of a mass exodus.

                If the players stay, the Bombers would be forced to pay overs to keep them.

                IF THE CAP FITS

                Potential suitors for banned Bombers

                Michael Hurley - Richmond

                Cale Hooker - Fremantle

                Travis Colyer - St Kilda

                David Myers - Geelong

                Dyson Heppell - Collingwood

                Tom Bellchambers - Hawthorn

                Michael Hibberd - Sydney

                Brent Stanton - Melbourne

                Jobe Watson - Western Bulldogs

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 67330

                  Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                  No thanks on Jobe.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                    At first, I thought Watson was a silly suggestion, as we all think of talls/kpp's first. But we are a pretty logical option as he'd want a top 4 challenging team at this stage of his career (he's probably got 2-3 decent years left in him).

                    If we could get Watson for nothing, we'd be crazy not to. He was a top 10 player in the competition before injuries and the challenges of leading a player group in constant long term crisis wore him down. With a year and a half off to refresh body and mind, he'd be an awesome complement to our midfield group as a big bodied, hard running endurance beast who can go forward and take a mark.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10204

                      Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                      Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                      At first, I thought Watson was a silly suggestion, as we all think of talls/kpp's first. But we are a pretty logical option as he'd want a top 4 challenging team at this stage of his career (he's probably got 2-3 decent years left in him).

                      If we could get Watson for nothing, we'd be crazy not to. He was a top 10 player in the competition before injuries and the challenges of leading a player group in constant long term crisis wore him down. With a year and a half off to refresh body and mind, he'd be an awesome complement to our midfield group as a big bodied, hard running endurance beast who can go forward and take a mark.
                      Watson was only good from 2011-2013, at which time there was absolutely nothing suspect going on at Essendon with regard to player performance whatsoever. The drop off in his form since then is just BAFFLING and I can't come up with any reason for it.

                      The only player from that list I'm interested in is Hurley (not coincidentally the best player on the list), who is rumoured to be the most disgruntled of the lot and likely to leave. Hibberd is a good player but I think we have his spot covered. Heppell is a jet but would cost way too much, and his slow as treacle turn of foot wouldn't really gel with what we're trying to achieve.
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27664

                        Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                        Originally posted by Happy Days
                        Watson was only good from 2011-2013, at which time there was absolutely nothing suspect going on at Essendon with regard to player performance whatsoever. The drop off in his form since then is just BAFFLING and I can't come up with any reason for it.

                        Yep it's got me baffled. If only we could find a correlation we could synthesise it...
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • hujsh
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11888

                          Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                          Originally posted by Twodogs
                          Yep it's got me baffled. If only we could find a correlation we could synthesise it...
                          Obviously the better his team does the better he does. Downhill skier.

                          Can't believe you guys missed that. It's staring right in your faces
                          [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                          • Twodogs
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 27664

                            Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                            Originally posted by hujsh
                            Obviously the better his team does the better he does. Downhill skier.

                            Can't believe you guys missed that. It's staring right in your faces

                            D'oh!
                            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15421

                              Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                              This Monday nights Four Corners Episode delves into the whole Essendon drug saga.

                              Typically Four Corners hold nothing back and hopefully this will be the case for this program.

                              For those interested its on ABC Monday Night at 8.30pm.

                              Oh, and the episode is called WHATEVER IT TAKES.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 45041

                                Re: ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                This Monday nights Four Corners Episode delves into the whole Essendon drug saga.

                                Typically Four Corners hold nothing back and hopefully this will be the case for this program.

                                For those interested its on ABC Monday Night at 8.30pm.

                                Oh, and the episode is called WHATEVER IT TAKES.

                                Thanks, I don't want to miss this.
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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