Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[The Cowshed]

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Tambling was a much touted junior and expected to go No 1 draft pick the year before he was drafted...the jungle drums were beating for a long time before hand that he was something special...I see a direct correlation with Martin's situation now. Just hope we get it right. Ray also racked up getting possessions at will during the U18 champs.

Jeemak sounds like he knows what he's talking about as far as the development that the club's new strengthening arm might be able to do to bring him to AFL standard.

[The Underdog]

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Tambling was a much touted junior and expected to go No 1 draft pick the year before he was drafted...the jungle drums were beating for a long time before hand that he was something special...I see a direct correlation with Martin's situation now. Just hope we get it right. Ray also racked up getting possessions at will during the U18 champs.

Jeemak sounds like he knows what he's talking about as far as the development that the club's new strengthening arm might be able to do to bring him to AFL standard.

If the recruiting staff do all they can to bring in the most talented players they can, then that's all we can ask. If Martin is more talented than the players available at our picks this year then do what you can to get him. There's no 100% sure things.

[anfo27]

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Tambling was Captain of NT's under 18's and won the Hunter Harrison medal as best player in division 2 in the National Championships. He didn't make much impact as a player in the AFL but it's wrong to suggest he wasn't a very highly credentialed under 18 player.

Fair enough. You must have a good memory there Greystache. I'm just recalling something i heard on the radio a few years back, i think it was Eddie who made the comment.

[Greystache]

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Fair enough. You must have a good memory there Greystache. I'm just recalling something i heard on the radio a few years back, i think it was Eddie who made the comment.

A bit of Google involved there too ...

When a player fails to make the grade people always tend to look back with 20-20 hindsight to say a player was less credentialed than someone taken later who kicked on, but the reality is most players picked early have been outstanding juniors. Picking the one's that can then go on to be equally succesful at AFL level is where recruiters earn their wage. It's rare for a first round selection to be picked from obscurity these days, although we did it back in 2009.

[LostDoggy]

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With Sydney likely to get the same K Tippett who monstered the Hawks in the prelim, I'd say B Lake's price just went up (if he's for sale). An interesting trade period coming.

[Throughandthrough]

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He will play Round 1 2014 - weight or no weight. Attacks the ball with complete commitment.

Exactly the opposite to Tambling on every level.

[LostDoggy]

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I'm quite open to the club discussing a potential trade for Brian ...... but it would need to be benficial for the long term list building strategy of the club, otherwise it is not worth it.

My reasoning is Brian wont be part of our next real assault on the top four and if we can use his trade to further improve the list (with the future in mind) then it may be worth.

[mjp]

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I see a direct correlation with Martin's situation now. Just hope we get it right. Ray also racked up getting possessions at will during the U18 champs.

A direct correlation between Tambling winning possessions as a 18yo and Martin being the best player on the ground in 2 games vs Div 1 opposition as a 17yo? I know I am biased but when you start comparing what Farren Ray did in the champs to what Martin accomplished it is getting a bit ridiculous.

[1eyedog]

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I've noted Jack Martin has been officially weighted at 64, 68 & 72 kilos from three different sources. He looks awfully slight, I tend to believe the 64 kilo one.

Will he be another Richard Tambling ?? or Jordan McMahon and not be able to put on weight. Farren Ray was even heavier but never progressed. I like his dedication in The Age article yesterday but the kid may not be physically ready for 3-4 years...can a team like the Bulldogs afford to wait that long?

Should we be looking to draft two stronger bodied players who are close to playing than taking the gamble on Martin? Then next year we can butter up with Thomas Boyd or Jack Billings when we finish last and secure the number one draft pick...

We did, Smith, Wallis and Libba, ready to go and the crux of our southern skies for many years to come. We need some dash on the outside now.

FWIW, He weighed in a little over 70kg at the combine

Yep, he's a monster alright. It's fine to say he will go in 100% committed, but at that weight you just get knocked of your line so easily. Lots of players have been 100% committed but that doesn't mean they are any good in a contest with the big boys.

Martin will take time as a midfielder, we need to temper his enthusiasm for the contest and get him on the outside as much as possible. Talking like we got him already

[Eastdog]

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Hearing news from our Best and Fairest that David Smorgon has annouced that Tom Hill has been delisted.

[mjp]

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Martin will take time as a midfielder, we need to temper his enthusiasm for the contest and get him on the outside as much as possible. Talking like we got him already

Betcha he doesn't.

[anfo27]

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Betcha he doesn't.

You've got me so excited about this kid that if we don't get him I'll be gutted.

So you see him stepping into the team round 1 in 2014 & making an impact?

[jeemak]

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Tambling was a much touted junior and expected to go No 1 draft pick the year before he was drafted...the jungle drums were beating for a long time before hand that he was something special...I see a direct correlation with Martin's situation now. Just hope we get it right. Ray also racked up getting possessions at will during the U18 champs.

Jeemak sounds like he knows what he's talking about as far as the development that the club's new strengthening arm might be able to do to bring him to AFL standard.

This is a common mistake to make mate! I don't know what I'm talking about when it comes to the clubs strengthening program, though I do know that Martin isn't going to be playing league matches until March 2014, so that leaves him 17 months or so to get himself a body that is capable of standing up to the requirements of AFL. Whether he ends up weighing 78kg, 84kg or 81kg in his first game he'll have had two preseasons under his belt and he'll be well prepared.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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so Gold Coast have pinched Martin from our grasp by trading pick 2 to GWS for the first pick in the mini-draft. They essentially double-screwed us meaning Melbourne get picks 3 and 4 and being able to use 26 on Viney.

[BornInDroopSt'54]

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so Gold Coast have pinched Martin from our grasp by trading pick 2 to GWS for the first pick in the mini-draft. They double-screwed us meaning Melbourne get picks 3 and 4 and being able to use 26 on Viney.

Gutted!