Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45577

    #241
    Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

    I'm a little ecstatic with the potential news that the Crows could forfeit the marketing potential and the focus for the media in handing us the opportunity to have the number one pick. The sponsorship and marketing opportunities will be enormous for us
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Ozza
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Mar 2008
      • 6402

      #242
      Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

      Originally posted by Sedat
      We can thank Matthew Drain for that particular act of bastardry of St Kilda bidding on the pick immediately before ours.
      St Kilda's recruiters legitimitely rated Cordy and would have taken him.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67705

        #243
        Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I'm a little ecstatic with the potential news that the Crows could forfeit the marketing potential and the focus for the media in handing us the opportunity to have the number one pick. The sponsorship and marketing opportunities will be enormous for us
        Our last number one was the Coon Dog. Very exciting to have the number one draft pick, especially when you don't finish bottom.
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • Scraggers
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jun 2008
          • 3587

          #244
          Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          I'm a little ecstatic with the potential news that the Crows could forfeit the marketing potential and the focus for the media in handing us the opportunity to have the number one pick. The sponsorship and marketing opportunities will be enormous for us
          Doesn't it also mean that JUH will get a $10K purse from NAB for being number one? Why would the Crows give up that cash for their first pick? Surely they don't bid on JUH number one

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          • hujsh
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2007
            • 11962

            #245
            Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

            Originally posted by Scraggers
            Doesn't it also mean that JUH will get a $10K purse from NAB for being number one? Why would the Crows give up that cash for their first pick? Surely they don't bid on JUH number one
            10K from the AFL and something like 20K from NAB
            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45577

              #246
              Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

              Originally posted by Ozza
              St Kilda's recruiters legitimitely rated Cordy and would have taken him.
              Yes, I had this confirmed by our own recruiting team years ago that they genuinely rated him
              Matthew Drain had no axe to grind with us
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Grantysghost
                Bouncing Strong
                • Apr 2010
                • 19389

                #247
                Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                Someone at the Crows has a date with collective minds if they gift us #1.
                BT COME BACK!​

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45577

                  #248
                  Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                  Originally posted by Scraggers
                  Doesn't it also mean that JUH will get a $10K purse from NAB for being number one? Why would the Crows give up that cash for their first pick? Surely they don't bid on JUH number one
                  It's one of the reason why once it gets to draft night I don't think they will forfeit the number one pick to us. Between that and the marketing opportunities of the number 1 pick it would be a brave call because they know we will match it and there is no question about it
                  They gain nothing by making that call other than getting us to pay up for a quality player and that won't pay their rent
                  The Swans can justify it but I don't think it serves the Crows or Kangas in making that call

                  If I was a betting man, he gets bid on at pick 3 or 4
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15116

                    #249
                    Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                    Originally posted by Axe Man
                    The best thing Ayce did was cause Zaine's value to plummet, enabling us to pick him up for a steal!
                    Poor Ayce - had a worse injury run than Tom Williams but doesn't get the concessions for it

                    Our biggest steal was having Wally and Libba in the same year (2010), so Libba goes for a pick in the 40s under the old rules.
                    It was a woeful draft for every other club, and to top it off we nail the rookie draft that year (Dahl & JJ). It was a huge, underrated factor in 2016.

                    This year could be as big - Martin for virtually nothing, Hannan is cream, but Treloar falls in our lap and we get a gun prospect in the draft who sprints faster than most of the mids (2.9s for 20m!) and his forte is contested marking. This really could set us up. If we steal a KPD who becomes serviceable (it may even be Raak) and Ewan McPherson becomes a small defender who can actually defend we'll be set for a long time.
                    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                    • Axe Man
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 11494

                      #250
                      Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                      Academy star Jamarra Ugle-Hagan speaks about Lance Franklin comparisons

                      Jamarra Ugle-Hagan has been compared to Lance Franklin from a young age. So how is the potential No.1 draft pick handling the daunting tag?

                      The comparisons to Sydney superstar Lance Franklin have come thick and fast for young sensation Jamarra Ugle-Hagan and he is turning those daunting remarks into a positive.

                      The academy ace, who is tied to the Western Bulldogs, has spectacular ability and standout athletic traits as a key forward, which will see him attract a bid inside the first five selections in the draft.

                      Ugle-Hagan is embracing the hype of being likened to the best forward of the modern era, rather than shying away from it.

                      While he knows he has a long way to go in replicating Franklin’s incredible feats, the 195cm forward is using the four-time Coleman medallist as a yardstick for achieving his own goals.

                      “I just use him as a person that sets goals for me,” Ugle-Hagan said.

                      “Everyone has that person you want to become or even do better (than), but it’s just setting yourself a high goal to obviously do what’s best for me and I’d like to think I can get there.”

                      “It’s words at the end of the day, I’ve got to show my X-Factor.”

                      “It’s good having other people believing I can… Hopefully I can get there one day.”


                      The Framlington product put himself on the map as a possible number one selection last year with 24 goals in nine matches for the premiership winning Oakleigh Chargers.

                      Despite Ugle-Hagan’s standout performances as a bottom-ager and the buzz surrounding him, he is unsure whether Franklin would know him by name.

                      “I haven’t met him at all, I don’t know if he knows me or not – I hope he does. A great bloke and obviously an unreal player.”

                      Talent boss Kevin Sheehan says there are definite similarities between the two.

                      “It’s a fair comparison, Indigenous boys who are left footers and goalkickers… he’s got a lot of class about him,” Sheehan said.

                      However, he recalled a notable difference. While Franklin dominated in his draft year back in 2004 and was in the frame for the number one selection, he only showed “glimpses” in his bottom-age year, unlike Ugle-Hagan who dominated.

                      “(Ugle-Hagan) showed more than glimpses late in the year in the finals for Oakleigh in among Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson, who we now know can play AFL. This kid looked a star and was very exciting and we were looking forward to his eighteenth year,” he said.

                      Sheehan expects the Bulldogs to swoop on Ugle-Hagan even if Adelaide comes calling at pick one.

                      Through academy rules the Bulldogs will receive a 20 per cent discount on the draft value index when matching a bid for Ugle-Hagan and are able to use their later selections to account for the points deficit.

                      The Bulldogs currently hold picks 29, 33, 41, 42, 52 and 54 after gaining 170 draft points in a pick swap with Greater Western Sydney on Tuesday.

                      Sheehan says bidding on Ugle-Hagan with the first selection is not the obvious choice for the Crows, given South Australian tall Riley Thilthorpe, gun key forward Logan McDonald and game-breaking midfielder Elijah Hollands also have strong cases.

                      “It’s a decision that they are going to anticipate what the Bulldogs will do. There is no doubt that (the Bulldogs) will match it pretty quick, so you then end up with a second pick,” Sheahan said.

                      “You’d rather come away with the view that you’ve got the best player and it’s very subjective as to which one is the best anyway.”

                      The wunderkind has his hopes fixed on achieving his AFL dream at present but aspires to become a role model for Indigenous children and wants to continue making inroads in Indigenous communities.

                      “At the moment, AFL footy is a dream – because you want to play. The other dream is to make young Indigenous boys look up to me and get the opportunities that I had to go to Scotch College and just knock down doors,” Ugle-Hagan said.

                      “Especially coming from an Indigenous community, there’s no excuses and you’ve just got to keep pushing.”

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67705

                        #251
                        Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                        The pressure is on for this kid
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • The Pie Man
                          Coaching Staff
                          • May 2008
                          • 3505

                          #252
                          Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          The pressure is on for this kid
                          Seems like he can likely handle it. Hope he’s as driven as he is confident
                          Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45577

                            #253
                            Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            The pressure is on for this kid
                            Whoever else arrives at the club through the draft will have very little expectations on them
                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                            • The Bulldogs Bite
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 11409

                              #254
                              Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                              Love his confidence.

                              Is it true he texted Naughton forward craft advice during the year?
                              W00F!

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                              • comrade
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 18103

                                #255
                                Re: Jamarra and the Points System Strategy

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                Love his confidence.

                                Is it true he texted Naughton forward craft advice during the year?
                                Yeah, it went something like this:

                                Hey Naughts,
                                Have you thought about just jumping on their heads?
                                Cheers, Marra
                                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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