2012 Trade rumours and discussion

[chef]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

I don't mind picking up Dawes. Would have been a lot happier about if we had of gotten to keep pick27.

[LongWait]

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Why bother upgrading from 27 to 21 and then use the result on Dawes - 27 would have got the job done anyway.

You think 27 would get the job done. This is just your opinion - or do you know otherwise?

[Ozza]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

Let's play a hypothetical game...Dawes comes to the club for pick 21 straight swap. That would mean we have effectively gained Dawes for Lake straight swap, with a downgraded 2nd round pick from 27 to 41. What are everyone's thoughts on this outcome?

Thats how I would see it panning out, Sedat.

Dawes and 41
for
Lake and 27.

Considering Dawes is likely to be playing for 7-8 years, and Brian for 1, 2 or 3 tops - there's some more balance to it there.

I don't necessarily think the above is equitable - but I think Dawes is being judged harshly and just on this years output - as opposed to his 2010 and first half of 2011 where he was well-regarded prior to his hand injury.

In going after the silver lining - pick 21 is a complete unknown - whereas we know right now that Dawes makes the grade - and we would expect him to be a senior player when we are theoretically a good side again.

Anyways - just thinking out aloud. I'm not necessarily for or against.

[Sedat]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

Thats how I would see it panning out, Sedat.

Dawes and 41
for
Lake and 27.

Considering Dawes is likely to be playing for 7-8 years, and Brian for 1, 2 or 3 tops - there's some more balance to it there.

I don't necessarily think the above is equitable - but I think Dawes is being judged harshly and just on this years output - as opposed to his 2010 and first half of 2011 where he was well-regarded prior to his hand injury.

In going after the silver lining - pick 21 is a complete unknown - whereas we know right now that Dawes makes the grade - and we would expect him to be a senior player when we are theoretically a good side again.

Anyways - just thinking out aloud. I'm not necessarily for or against.

Good summation Ozza. All I'll say is that it would completely contradict what was said by the club yesterday to explain the rationale behind trading Lake. All the talk yesterday was about gaining an extra pick in the 1st round and having 6 picks in the top 50 to rebuild the list.

Going to be an interesting couple of weeks. I just hope it's not interesting in the 2003 trade week way

[The Doctor]

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Wonder if Sherman could be used in any Dawes deal. A possible replacement for Wellingham?

[azabob]

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Wonder if Sherman could be used in any Dawes deal. A possible replacement for Wellingham?

If it could happen, would you be willing to pay for some of his contract? I can't see Collingwood having space in their cap to accommodate his entire salary.

[jeemak]

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If it could happen, would you be willing to pay for some of his contract? I can't see Collingwood having space in their cap to accommodate his entire salary.

If we don't want him, and we can use him in order to improve our position then I'd consider paying part of his final year's contract.

We're going to struggle to pay the 95% anyway!

[stefoid]

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You think 27 would get the job done. This is just your opinion - or do you know otherwise?

I know jack, but the pies are under cap pressure, and have brought in Lynch so Dawes is on the market, and his other suitors dont have a pick below 27, so...

[azabob]

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If we don't want him, and we can use him in order to improve our position then I'd consider paying part of his final year's contract.

We're going to struggle to pay the 95% anyway!

I agree, I am still wondering how we are going to pay 95%....

[Ozza]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

Good summation Ozza. All I'll say is that it would completely contradict what was said by the club yesterday to explain the rationale behind trading Lake. All the talk yesterday was about gaining an extra pick in the 1st round and having 6 picks in the top 50 to rebuild the list.

Going to be an interesting couple of weeks. I just hope it's not interesting in the 2003 trade week way

Yes, it certainly moves away from yesterday's line/sound bite.

In theory.

Pick 5
Pick 6
Dawes > Lake
Pick 41
Lachlan Hunter.
Pick 47

and we hope that all 6 blokes are playing in 2017!

[LongWait]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

I know jack, but the pies are under cap pressure, and have brought in Lynch so Dawes is on the market, and his other suitors dont have a pick below 27, so...

Melbourne is apparently one of his suitors.

Dawes is under contract so Collingwood may not trade him.

[1eyedog]

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It's all over the place, looks like it will be pick 21 for Dawes, announcement soon.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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What are the positives to Dawes' game? He's not agile, he's not mobile, he's not a great mark and he's not a big goal kicker.

He works hard, runs straight and provides a contest. That is not worthy of a first round pick. We got the same out of Adam Morgan.

[Dancin' Douggy]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

Pick 21 for Dawes is crazy.
Hope this doesn't happen.
Would rather have pick 21 in the draft.

[Bornadog]

Re: 2012 Trade rumours and discussion

Moloney about to sign with Lions pending a medical